Monday, March 05, 2007

It List: Monday 3/5/07

Caught the Dr. Dog show at Gypsy last night, and although it didn't completely blow me away, I've gotta say that they are certainly a strong live band who are quite worth the cover charge. Some of the new stuff didn't quite get me right away like a lot of their older EP material, but maybe it will just take some time to grow on me. Of course, I might have been in a worse mood than usual after being forced to sit through What Made Milwaukee Famous, who could very well be the biggest hunk of shit I've seen in quite a while. During their set, my friend turned to me and asked "do you think these guys listen to a lot of Save Ferris?" That pretty much summed it up for me.

As for this evening...

There is always the Bad Ass Jazz Night at the Amsterdam, and for all you "indie" rockers out there:

The Shins/Viva Voce (Palladium Ballroom): People love to hate on the Shins, and frankly I can see why, even if it probably isn't all their fault. You see, after that Garden State movie, the whole idea of the Shins changing anyone's life seemed a little silly, didn't it? All things considered, they are just about as safe and yuppie and, well, "indie" as you can get, and although it doesn't make them evil, they probably aren't going to change the life of anyone that actually gives a shit any time soon. That being said, they've made some enjoyable music throughout their career (and a few songs that are actually great), and although I took a listen to the new album and probably won't pick it up again, like, ever, I still don't think their show would be a bad time, even though I have heard that their live act leaves a bit to be desired. And I haven't been to that Palladium Ballroom place yet, but it kind of scares me a little bit.

Justin Timberlake/Pink (American Airlines Center): This show is probably sold out or $100 a ticket or something, but I've gotta say that aside from the crappy venue and annoying opening act, I'd rather see a Justin Timberlake and Timbaland show than a Shins show any day of the week. After reading this review and several others discussing the performances that this guy puts on, I'd be willing to give it a try considering I've liked every solo single he's put out so far (although I might not have liked the Britney love song thing), and most of the things Timbaland does are at least interesting if nothing else. Think about how strange some of Timbaland's biggest hits have been over the past decade... rock n' roll hasn't charted with music that strange in decades.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

whatever happened to the moday morning fart song?

4:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry, i found it

4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

viva voce is gonna blow the shins out of the fucking water.

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i love the fart song.

and any show that is over 20 bucks can kiss my cheap white ass

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

saw dr dog @ the in store thing. they're good. i love the music on record. i thought maybe they would be something really great live. and revitalize my hope in live band-band pop or rock music or whatever. like dudes with standard shit. like guitar/bass/drums/vocals/etc. but i wasn't totally floored or anything. they seemed pretty bored too. like they are tired of playing the same songs over and over. i think i'm just done with the dudes with guitars and drums. standard shit. but i they have put out one of my fav records 'easybeat' it's incredible.

4:37 PM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

I feel like I'm pretty much in the same boat as you, meaning that I haven't been blown away by a standard set up pop rock band in a long time... but Dr. Dog probably came closer than anyone else recently.

4:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What Made Milwaukee Famous are horrible, what made it worse is that I went to ACL Festival this year and was waiting around for Explosions in the Sky to come on and WMMF were playing and about a thousand or so kids were going insane. Never will I pick up a WMMF record or go to ACL again.

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i didn't think about it until it was too late and they were done taking requests but i really wanted to request for them to do that song that goes "Pyschedelic Swamp" over and over. that shit is hilarious. too bad. maybe THEN i would believe in rock and roll again. alas.

4:53 PM  
Blogger amandacobra said...

the shins show will probably be very boring. the justin timberlake show will doubtlessly be far mor enjoyable. there's only upper upper deck tickets left and they're $55 each for the timberlake show. dammit.

4:54 PM  
Blogger aaron said...

I really really enjoyed the show last night. I haven't been that happy with a live band in a long time.
Today at lunch I saw them at Guitar Center and they were really nice, down to earth and appreciative of my compliments.
KUDOS Dr. Dog, kudos.

5:12 PM  
Blogger aaron said...

Oh, and holy shit What Made Anthem Rock Boring?

5:21 PM  
Anonymous schmancy said...

today was a good day,

ah, the free market:

sold our FREE JT tix
buying shins/vv tix to go see VIVA VOCE COS THEY'RE AWESOME!
AND, have money left over for booze.

I didn't have to use my AK.

5:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whoah, I think i went to the wrong site ...

6:14 PM  
Anonymous the truth said...

justin timberlake craps the tub

7:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so fucking sick and tired of hearing about Justin Timberlake.. please stop. seriously.. dammit.. And WMMF?? ya.. REAL bad. How the hell does a band like that sign to Barsuk? Oh wait... Barsuk is terrible

9:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the shins aren't neccesarily a bad band as much as they are mediocre and boring. they do what they do very well if you're into it.

9:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Palladium? Um...SUCKS as a venue. I had no preconcevied notions going in and was ready to enjoy the Shins show, but damn - what a lifeless place to cattle call people in. The sound was spotty as well - the lead mics would shift levels throughout, and the guitars were at times way too loud or not nearly loud enough.

I wonder whether the word will get out among touring bands that the venue is totally lifeless, or if it will be a stop for years to come for the amount of people you can herd in there. I'm sure the Shins made a killing last night - the place was packed.

9:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:45, how was viva voce

10:36 AM  
Blogger kirkpatrick said...

The Shins are a band that your girlfriend likes, but there's no reason to complain when she plays them. But seriously, if I see that publicity photo of them in the life vests one more time, I think I'm gonna lose it.

11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speak for yourself, Kirkpatrick. My girlfriend has better taste than that and come to think of did yours.

12:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

viva shutthefuckinghellupalready!

12:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

timberlake/pink?? i'm starting to think the diaper rash is going to yer brains...

12:33 PM  
Anonymous M-. said...

I thought "Oh, Inverted World" was a great album, but they are so horribly boring live that I would rather just stay at home and listen to the album.

Other than getting paid, I don't understand why they even bother to play live. They don't appear to enjoy it, or really even realize they are doing it. The show and a half that I saw were like slaps in the face to everyone in the audience.

Anyone go to the show? Was it good? Did they seem to care that they were utilizing musical instruments in front of people?

1:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'the bitch keeps bitchin'
snitcher keeps snitchin'

1:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh inverted world is great indeed. would never want to witness it. listening is fine.

1:50 PM  
Anonymous M-. said...

Oh... yeah... I suppose that sounded a bit harsh. Guess it just bums me out as I really liked that album and then spent $15 to see them basically sound like the album with no emotion whatsoever.

Eh... maybe they had a bad day or something.

1:52 PM  
Blogger Zine-O-Phonic said...

No, they are boring live. They need a light show or projectors or something. I like their records too. Some people just don't have stage/visual presence. or Maybe they are just doing their impersonation of a Dallas crowd.

This reminds me of the time I saw Autechre live. The stage was black, no visuals, and you couldn't see anyone onstage. They could have been playing a cd for the whole set. Yet the audience watched like sheep and ate it up. It was like 1100 people payed to play a mix cd in a dark room, all facing the same wall.

"ever felt like you've been cheated"

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are referring to the autechre show at The Mercury Room... I couldn't agree more. I actually fell asleep at that show! Their lack of interest in what they were performing and the audience there to see them was irritating. A first and hopefully a last.

4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i hate music

5:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its got too many notes

5:31 PM  
Anonymous schmancy said...

9:45 AM, m,

the show last night was a c+ as a whole.

it wasn't really the bands' faults tho.

the palladium: "cattle call" is definitely the best way to put it. The sound there was so ARTIFICIAL that it backfired itself. Very FOAMY and very too loud bass.

during viva voce, it was like the sound guy was playing around and figuring out the board for the first time. you couldn't hear kevin's vocals, and you couldn't hear anita's guitar. WTF?! her guitar is the foundation for the band. her vocals would go from mute to shrill to echo'd. I could tell they couldn't hear themselves.

also, during the entire set for viva voce, there were crackling noises like a dirty record/needle or fireworks it was painful.

of course the sound was 90% by the time shins were on.

and i think that people want to shit on the shins too easily just because of their association to garden state. don't you hate it when your friends become successful? I think they're a great fun band, and are actually really good live. but only if you can tolerate a band sounding exactly like their record live. I will take this as a good thing more often than a bad thing...

no but seriously, the palladium can't possibly keep going on like this. $10 to park, $26 for tix, and I heard somebody ordered a drink that cost $11?!!! fuck that, as much as I hate nokia, at least the sound there has been consistant and there are seats.

another weird thing about that place was that the sound in the building seemed to be designed to mute crowd noise. really weird, when you yahooo to a song, and your shout stops about a foot in front of you. doesn't stop the three shouting matching blondes with matching polo boyfriends from bein heard right behind my head though.

palladium never again.

6:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh ps, shins looked like they were having fun playing. bassman was drinking pretty fast and hard at the beginning and hamming it up for the layfolk.

6:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Agree with everything you had to say - well put.

The only way I'll go see another show at the Palladium is if I know my favorite band is going to be executed the next day and it's their last show. Other than that - there's really no other reason to go.

2 tickets = $52
Parking = $10
2 mixed well drinks = $11
2 beers = $8

$80 for two to see a show. That's already way too much, but for the sound to be as bad as it was, and for the "ambiance" (if you can call it that) to be so terrible - never again is right.


6:43 PM  
Anonymous jc said...

yo i know it was a long azz time ago but that autechre@merc show was boss.

it sounded like 10 billion bux.

50 mins all improvised.

A++++! Great Seller! Would Buy Again!

7:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

timbaland kicked jt's ass, experimental music/film/djing/playingsynth/it was incredible

7:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


don't even try. jc would take your AZZ out the mix, boi.

8:11 PM  
Blogger Zine-O-Phonic said...

I saw Autechre in Chicago. I enjoy listening to them, but I would never see them live again.

10:18 PM  
Blogger Myles said...

The Shins played a really good set last night. Played with so much entusiasm (something missing with a lot of bands these days), and they belted out every song better than it sounded on cd. I got their late so I missed Viva Voce, but overall The Palladium is a great place to see big bands. I prefer it over The Nokia any day. If the Shins are your cup of tea, then it was a great show. I'm tired of people hating on the band, I mean The Shins are The Shins, what more do you expect? They still write pop songs, thats about all they've ever done. Must we always ostercize a good band when they get overexposure? You people are all a bunch of damn hoity-toits!

11:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No way. The Shins were good, sure - but The Palladium is awful.

1:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dug the Autechre show in Austin, but realize that is an aquired taste live. Their set was all improv so the only way you could hear them do what they did live would be to hear a bootleg. I wish they would show a video or something though. I got super stoned so most of the show I just sat down and vegged out on the music. For part of the show I checked out what software they were using. Custom built Reaktor ensembles. No DAW. Good show. Not for everyone.

12:02 PM  
Anonymous Ineka said...

Viva Voce

2:47 PM  
Anonymous mc said...

dudes, I thought whoever it was that was doing the total crazy psych heavy metal type laptop IDM stuff opening for Autechre at the Mercury (was it Bogdan Raczynski? yeah it was a long time ago) was wAAAAAy better live.

3:01 PM  
Anonymous mc said...

RUSSELL HASWELL was his name. And his show was awesome. The most physical laptop experience ever. Yeah, I've never been to a deathmatch (still), but now i live 40 mins away from one, instead of 5.

sollie dudes.

3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh yea they were boring, and also there were alot of people that were there just cause they happened to watch Graden State, good thing Viva Voce was the opening group they were so awesome after them I just left it looked boring.

7:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your mom looks boring.

10:31 AM  
Blogger Myles said...

it was far from boring.

3:12 PM  
Blogger kidko said...

I'll agree with the positive reviews of the Shins and the negative of the Palladium. I wish I hadn't seen 6:43's math because I paid for 3 tickets and 6 drinks! ugh.

Shins were very into what they were doing. I admit to spacing out during their newer songs I don't recognize, but stuff from Oh, Inverted World and Chutes' was very tight with an added enthusiasm. I think they have a commendable dynamic range in the live situation to match the production value they got on their older albums.

I felt bad for Viva Voce. The crackling sound from the speakers was very distracting and probably discouraging, but they fought through it. Like the--Anita's guitar doesn't come on during the first song but she rocks it anyway--kind of stuff.

I wish they had more songs where Kevin sings and Anita just looks cute. She started off seeming really cute, proven by how my girlfriend was picking apart her "look", but by the end of the set I was thinking, "OK, Thank you, next!"

7:44 AM  

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