Tuesday, February 26, 2008

Fight Bite

Do you know what a 'fight bite" is? If so, then you probably realize that Denton's Fight Bite have one of the most disgusting band names in the metroplex. You won't notice it while you're trapped in the lush, dreamy haze their lovely tracks will send you into, but a quick Google image search will snap you outta that one pretty quick. Totally NSFW.

Anyway, gross band names are pretty cool in my book, and apparently, they're pretty cool in Stereogum's too, as the love it or hate it international hipster blog just added Fight Bite to their list of "Bands to Watch"after last week's glowing Gorilla vs Bear post . Fight Bite consists of former Christian Teenage Runaway member Leanne Macomber and Teenage Symphony lead singer Jeff Williams, and despite the fact that they've only played a handful of shows together, the reason they're getting so much attention becomes pretty clear after just a few moments on their Myspace page- yes, the music really is worthy of the early praise. Check out standout track "Swissexlover" to see what I mean. Anyone who's into Beach House or High Places or maybe even Celebration will dig this stuff for sure.

114 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

or Magnetic Fields.

8:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shit is really really good.

8:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If she was fat and had acne, y'all would say she sucked.
Here's a nude Fight Bite picture:
http://www.orthosupersite.com/images/content/OT/200706/60_image5.jpg

8:50 PM  
Anonymous FlappersinNylons said...

8:50 has downs.

8:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

c.o.i.

11:49 PM  
Anonymous Castration: A Celebration said...

8:50,
you got one thing right...that is pretty much what i look like nude.
but otherwise fuck you for perpetuating the idea that women amount to nothing more than their physical beauty or lack there of. if i were a man you wouldn't give a shit what i looked like.

12:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good tunes, and apologies for the misogynist bullshit. Best to ignore people with their head that far up their ass really.

12:56 AM  
Anonymous Tree Shears + shaft = some dead gum raw ballz said...

If you were a man I'd still give a shit because I'm just special like that. But their jamz rock all steamin hot and heavy with truth and virtue. They do not lie and are as fuckable as their perpetuators.

1:55 AM  
Anonymous man e faces said...

yes, it is possible to succeed on multiple fronts.

8:27 AM  
Anonymous chriso))) said...

HIGH FIVE

9:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leeanne has an absolutely bitchin' Han Solo outfit.

10:28 AM  
Anonymous anonanebooboo said...

an exerpt from todays DO:

"no this wasn't a festival at all. it was wanz dover's bar mitzvah. he is finally a man"

pete freedman

11:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's sort of funny.

11:33 AM  
Anonymous anonanebooboo said...

an exerpt from todays DO:

"no this wasn't a festival at all. it was wanz dover's bar mitzvah. he is finally a man"

pete freedman

11:35 AM  
Anonymous chris said...

Damn. Good stuff.

12:32 PM  
Anonymous defensive listening said...

I would like to see the rest of the article but I find this attitude to be a little extreme. I know you think we can be real assholes, but this makes us look nice:

LINK

If that doesn't work:


http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/dc9/2008/02/pitchfork_namedrops_this_weeke.php#comments



Look at those tags, completely unnecessary. I think it's strange that someone so to new to town has such a hostile attitude. At least J. Widner was attacked first before she bit back.

And if you're constantly admitting to not being that "hip" just because you don't know what something is, or you're too lazy to try to keep up with what's going on, or you're self conscious about not having a big music collection etc., then maybe you shouldn't be writing about music. That goes for most of the writers over there and music writers in general. Would a book reviewer ever say, "Okay, so I don't know that much about books but listen to me?" Why are music journalists constantly reminding us of how unqualified they are to be covering their subject? That can usually be deduced by the content.

Anyways, it certainly looked like a festival to me. I mean, I couldn't get a decent meal without having to wait two hours for a salad, so it must have been a festival.

12:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I want to know is, when did Quick start writing better, more informed articles about local music than the Observer? And is there any further proof we need that the DO isn't just ill-informed and unwilling to even attempt to keep up, but rather completely irrelevant? This Pete Freedman douche seems to combine the worst aspects of Machovech and Widner: ruthless asshole (at least Sam knew what he was talking about) and completely out of touch (at least Jonanna didn't take cheap shots in the dark about what she wasn't willing to follow).

Thankfully, we have a handful of local bloggers willing to spend the time and effort to keep up with virtually everything going on, so the DO isn't just irrelevant, it's unnecessary.

1:09 PM  
Anonymous meishae said...

Yeah you would think Pete would look at the festival as a blessing to catch up on all the bands he has never even heard of. This should have been even the laziest music writers wet dream. Instead he chooses to contribute to the problem.

1:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If stonedranger had written that Bar Mitzvah line, nobody would say anything. The DC9 blog was pretty harsh though.

1:41 PM  
Anonymous defensive listening said...

1:41-

What, you don't think SR has been attacked for what he says? He would have never written that Bar Mitzvah line. Which is kind of my point.

1:46 PM  
Anonymous chriso))) said...

ONE MORE HIGH FIVE FOR FIGHT BITE

Read the Observer article at lunch and it is gottamn ridiculous. I could deal with Jononowoahsdf Widner writing about She Dick every week. Its just some boring thing to read at lunch that's halfway entertaining. It started off nice, but then the last half of a page seemed like a big "fuck you Wanz" to me. Pete Freedman can eat a dick. I've only spoken to Wanz twice, so I'm not sticking up for anybody. If you'd like, I can scan this thing over so you can read it.

HIGH FIVE FOR FIGHT BITE!

1:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonagon said...

Fuck that guy, and fuck that waste of paper/webspace.

2:02 PM  
Anonymous not hh said...

Props to Hunter Hauk at Quick, the coverage is pretty decent and most importantly makes an open-minded effort

2:05 PM  
Anonymous kellyrien said...

Leanne you are so hot! I love Fight Bite!!!

2:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys gotta admit that pitchfork write up was weak. It spent half the time making fun of the name and only gave props to one dfw band. The pete blog write up thing looked more like a stab at pitchfork and the over importance people put on that site than anything that had to do with the festival, wanz or wsjr.

2:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys gotta admit that pitchfork write up was weak. It spent half the time making fun of the name and only gave props to one dfw band. The pete blog write up thing looked more like a stab at pitchfork and the over importance people put on that site than anything that had to do with the festival, wanz or wsjr.

2:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys gotta admit that pitchfork write up was weak. It spent half the time making fun of the name and only gave props to one dfw band. The pete blog write up thing looked more like a stab at pitchfork and the over importance people put on that site than anything that had to do with the festival, wanz or wsjr.

2:30 PM  
Anonymous stonedranger said...

The pitchfork write up was kind of weak, I won't deny that. But I was trying to point out via implication that despite the weakness of the write up, Pitchfork, a wildly popular and
internationally known music website, provided just about as much relevant coverage of Melodica as most of the DFW mainstream media.


Hunter did some decent things over at Quick, but honestly, as far as local pieces on Melodica, I saw much more discussion about Wanz personally than the line up of the fest. At least Pitchfork was able to pick out some of the fest's highlights and mention them.

2:50 PM  
Anonymous defensive listening said...

Pitchfork listed the obvious national acts. The website is not based out of DFW so of course they don't really feel obligated to give "props" to any DFW acts. If it was just an all local DFW fest, why would a national music news site cover it? Unless it featured Polyphonic Spree, St. Vincent, Midlake etc.

Pete has taken multiple stabs at Wanz and Melodica and I don't think it's called for. I would totally admit if it was. I had my own reservations and skepticism about the fest but I think it turned out really well and the overall public response has been positive. Pete hasn't lived here long enough to know how bizarre that is, to see DFW show the smallest sign of unity over ANYTHING. Freedman taking it upon himself to make one of his first moves an attack on that unity is a pretty strange decision.

I love setting flame to sacred cows, but pick your battles. This was just thrown together practically last minute by two guys with help from the community. Sounds almost falsely utopian, but that's what happened. Whenever there's a larger fest with Coors Light sponsorship and all sorts of eyesore corporate atrocities, the Observer doesn't say a fucking word about that. They sleepwalk through that shit and phone in a review.

2:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont see any stabs on that page. Linking the word hype to a picture of flavaflav? Making fun of how pitchfork hotlinks every other word? Whats the big deal?

yeah pete doesn't get that this sort of thing never happens in DFW. He probably would have championed it if he'd been here longer. Give the guy a break. It's going to take more than a few weeks to learn the ins and outs of north texas music.

3:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well the Observer that came out today isn't online yet, so we can't link to the story really being talked about.

why is that anyways

give the guy a break for being overly melodramatically opinionated and unjustifiably mean because he thinks it's what people want to hear? Like Hilary Clinton?

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Specifically, that DC9 blurb had the tags "hipster snobbery, Melodica, my cd collection is cooler than your cd collection, obnoxious usage of links and tags, Pitchfork, validation, Wanz Dover"

It's one thing to take jabs at Pitchfork if you don't particularly like them (I'm sure you don't have good reasons, but to each their own). But I'm almost positive that this little article was also Pete Freidman's only one about Melodica before the event, since Rich Lopez was the one responsible for the (almost as bad) article in the Observer itself. So Friedman's only pre-event words basically linked the fest with snobbish hipster bs and Dallas's "need" for validation from Pitchfork.

And wtf is with "cd collection"? Everyone knows hipsters collect vinyl. Duh.

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i still think the tags in the post were meant as more of a shot at pitchfork than at wanz or melodica. and even though i can't really defend the DO, how much coverage do you want? they wrote an article the week before and apparently a review after. even if they're not great articles it's not like they were trying keep anyone from knowing about it.

4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can anyone ever be satisfied? everyone bitches about everything.

4:16 PM  
Anonymous chriso))) said...

The first article wasn't too bad. The one that came out today is just stupid. Here's the headline: Does it make a sound? If a festival happens in Exposition Park and only the built-in crowd shows. Read the thing, I can't describe it. Writing about writing about music. Ugh.

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who gets offended by the word "hipster" anymore? those who use it or those who don't?

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the wierd thing is he didnt take a jab at melodica...he took a jab at wanz....multiple jabs in fact...and then basically states that the event well have zero impact and accomplish nothing other than inflating wanz's ego

ps. i dont know wanz

4:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who gets offended by the word "hipster" anymore? those who use it or those who don't?

4:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who gets offended by the word "hipster" anymore? those who use it or those who don't?

4:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does everyone keep bitching about the Observer? Quit reading it if it's so bad. Or better yet, do something to make it better. If you're in a band that's better than what they write about now, send them your CD. If you think you'd be a better writer than the people they use, find out how you can contribute.

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who gets offended by the word "hipster" anymore? those who use it or those who don't?

4:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right. It's obvious when he says it won't have any impact that Pete is destined to be the outsider looking in during his entire stay at the Observer. Over the weekend, I talked to at least 20 different musicians who stated that they felt inspired by the fest to start working hard on new music and putting together good shows. It was exactly what it was intended to be: a wakeup call to the local music community. And in that regard, it was an overwhelming success.

4:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who gets offended by the word "hipster" anymore? those who use it or those who don't?

4:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does everyone keep bitching about the Observer? Quit reading it if it's so bad. Or better yet, do something to make it better. If you're in a band that's better than what they write about now, send them your CD. If you think you'd be a better writer than the people they use, find out how you can contribute.

4:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why do people bitch? well. why print something so vindictive? is it personal? it's a music zine. shouldn't it provide some solidarity in local music. the festival sure did. the energy out at expo park was crutially possitive and alive with true spirit. and then the most distributed local zine bashes it on an almost personal level...well i think that is just fucked up.

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Observer is awfully entrenched in its mediocre ways. They ignore almost anything sent to them by bands, and choose to cover mostly the blandest parts of local culture. I don't see myself getting involved with them making any big difference, and if it does, they're quick to toss you overboard for rocking the boat. What would be even better is if we had another "alternative" weekly in circulation, like the Met (rip). I for one am hoping that the recent art and sports posts on wsjr are a hint of things to come: a print version of wsjr?

4:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its up:

http://music.dallasobserver.com/2008-02-28/music/melodica-festival-self-indulgent-but-still-positive-for-dallas/

5:04 PM  
Anonymous stonedranger said...

honestly, i didn't even get it

5:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That article was as wrong as it was right, but it was still right. And wrong. I can't wait to check this comment section in a few hours to hear what you guys think after you read the review.

5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How someone can write a review about a festival of this scale, with this many bands involved, and only mention one band by name (and not even talk about their performances) is beyond me. "Pretty boring" at times. Okay, buddy, go back to listening to Baboon, Black Tie Dynasty, and Sarah Jaffe, and calling Loop 12 and the Great Tyrant "really fucking weird". You're a winner.

5:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it would have been nice for the article to mention something about the festival's 80 or so bands. i think light bright highway was the only mention. instead it took a complete shift to bashing wanz. wtf. as much as it critizes it does exactly what it critizes against. by not talking about the local music that was there by not expanding on the positive aspects of the weekend and just taking a total shift to all about wanz. everyone knows wanz is the way wanz is, why does he have to a focus any more than he already is. what about the bands? the power to make this article music focused was in his own hand he chose for it be about wanz instead. fucking lame.

5:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hahah that article was dead on! This is basically a printed version of what happens in this comment section every week.

5:46 PM  
Anonymous jpt said...

Agreed, 5:44, there is nothing comprehensive in that review. I would think a two-page look at the MUSIC would be in order, at least, since that was the whole point of the MUSIC festival. A totally mailed-in wannabe bullshit piece. But, he's got people blogging about it, so that's probably all he wants. No substance.

6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny that Wanz now has an article in the Dallas Observer about how much of a turd he is.

6:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that's not funny... it's really not much of anything, William...........................

6:43 PM  
Anonymous wow. just wow. said...

A few things I take issue with:

I was present for all 3 nights of Melodica, and there were a ton of bands that played, including some really great, even mind-blowing local bands. How about a word or two about them?

Then there was this: "electro-synth beats that brought nose-in-the-air hipsters by the hundreds": seriously? Were you at minc all night? There was a huge cross-section of music of all kinds of different genres represented, and less than half could even conceivably fit that description. And there's that "hipster" thing again. Could it describe a handful of people who were there? Certainly. But to paint the entire crowd with that broad stroke? Please.

Also, "This was an audience of Dover's 400 closest friends." True, to a point, looking mainly at the bands that played. Wanz has also been a part of the music community in the area for a decade and a half. And being a music lover, he has met and befriended (and otherwise) many others in the community. The "audience," however, also consisted of fans of certain bands that played, who may or may not even know who Wanz is, including some fans who know of and don't particularly like Wanz but begrudgingly came out anyway based on the strength of the lineup. The two nights at minc were mostly attended by the local electronic music community, which has for some reason always been more or less seperate from the indie rock community. Many of those people from the electronica scene post on ddm, which I do occasionally, and very few of them know who Wanz is when I mention him there. If this was truly "an audience of Dover's 400 closest friends", I also have to ask why there weren't 400 people inside Sloppyworld when the Frenz played.

Considering that in the article Pete states that "out-of-town artists brought in to play the fest approached Dover, inspired to host similar DIY-type festivals in their own hometowns" and then goes on to say nothing will be accomplished in the long run, I have to say I'm confused as to what "nothing" means in Pete's Lexicon of Confusing Terms.

"Offering a presentation of his friends' bands to a crowd of Wanz's friends and an audience of listeners already familiar with these sounds" - again, only true to a point. Although I consider Wanz a friend, I was completely unfamiliar with upwards of 30 bands that played this weeked (other than looking them up on myspace in the weeks leading up to the fest). I had the chance to check out several of these all in one weekend, and found quite a few who can now consider me a new fan.

Finally, using the quote "I made Dallas cool" and dwelling on it - really bad taste, Pete, especially when noting that he immediately regretted saying it. Perhaps it was taken out of context, perhaps not, but Pete shows he's too new to the area with this one. For those of us living in the area, who have had to endure the pervading, mindless mantras of "Dallas music is dead" and "Dallas sucks" repeated by those living within the city as well as without, Melodica was a breath of fresh air, and a reassurance that Dallas (and Ft. Worth, and Denton) does indeed have a thriving local music community, and shitloads of great music. While Wanz at times can seem "pompous" or overly excited about it all, perhaps it is because his optimism is such a stark contrast to the ruthlessly pessimistic and ubiquitous aforementioned mantras.

Well Pete, welcome to Dallas. Now get the fuck out.

7:01 PM  
Anonymous Elderidge \"Meat\" Kleaver said...

Ok. I give up. I can't win. If this shit bdoes not convince people that I am just a big music fan I don't know what will. I put all of my heart into this. It became a fulltime job so much that I did not have time to go to my real job.


FOR THE LAST TIME I AM NOT A MUSIC SNOB. I AM A MUSIC FAN. A SOCIALLY AWKWARD MUSIC FAN. I AM ALSO KIND OF A LONER. I DON'T OPEN UP TO PEOPLE EASILY, BUT I MEAN NO MALICE OR ARROGANCE TO ANYONE. THAT LAST THIS FALSE PROPAGANDA YEAR KEPT ME FROM GETTING A DREAM JOB. THIS SHIT HAS QUITE LITERALLY RUINED MY LIFE AND SENT ME INTO DEPRESSION OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

If you like my music cool. If you don't please for the love of god LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!


WELL. FUCK IT.

you win. I lose.........again.

7:42 PM  
Anonymous cliff notes said...

i love bashing people.. it's great.. it's fun etc.. etc..

however without a benchmark.. without standards.. without a fucking point.. you are simply another empty observer writer..

whens the next editor?

7:43 PM  
Anonymous Lucas said...

Melodica was awesome. It seemed to me that the people in attendance were enjoying themselves. I know I had a great time. Kurt Vonnegut said the purpose of art was for a few moments to make us glad to be alive, and by that measure the Fest was an amazing success.

Thanks Wanz for organizing the festival and bringing joy to people's lives.

The article says much more about Pete than it does about anything else.

I hope Fight Bite plays at the next one.

8:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Melodica was the best music festival that i've been to in north texas. made me feel great. i felt that tingling energy rushing all around and in the people around me and myself. it was a truely over the top success in making people very happy about the local music. too bad. sorry wanz. dude is just a dick. that was one of the best weekends that dallas has seen in a loooong time. i think it gives a lot hope to a lot people who are music fans.

8:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

geez, wanz! or BEN, if you prefer.. since when did you roll anon?!?

9:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does everyone keep bitching about the Observer? Quit reading it if it's so bad. Or better yet, do something to make it better. If you're in a band that's better than what they write about now, send them your CD. If you think you'd be a better writer than the people they use, find out how you can contribute.

12:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does everyone keep bitching about the Observer? Quit reading it if it's so bad. Or better yet, do something to make it better. If you're in a band that's better than what they write about now, send them your CD. If you think you'd be a better writer than the people they use, find out how you can contribute.

12:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leanne is a talentless fucking lesbian slave. Fuck her and fuck you for giving her any attention.

11:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, and the dude from nouns group, who just happens to be the guy who wrote this stupid article, is dating Leanne from Fight Bite(lame fucking name). So there you go. p.s. Fuck you Leanne for choosing to hang out with complete shitheads like Julie McKendrick and fat sasha. Just fuck you.

11:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stonedranger is in nouns group? are you a dumb bitch or what?

1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:13 and 11:15:

Hey, Kyle. How's Quebec? Cold?

2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nope. Perhaps Kyle isn't the only person who hates the CTR crew? Hey, let's all be sacreligious fashionista assholes because we can't tune our instruments or write a catchy tune to save our lives! And when all else fails, just scream into the mic like a drunken hyena! I'm sorry, but since when are upsidedown crosses cool? I mean, where and why did the fuck did the whole christbashing thing com into play? Seriously. You girls used to be sweet. And here's to Kyle for rejecting you scumbags!

11:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Upside down crosses have always been, and will always be, cool. Fuck Jesus right in his holy butthole.

CTR kicked ass, and Fight Bite continues in this grand tradition.

But you're perfectly entitled to your wrong opinion, you jealous waste of sperm and eggs.

3:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's nothing worse than sacrilege for the sake of getting noticed. And in the case of CTR it just looks like "Hey! Let's hate Jesus, cuz it's the cool thing to do!" Those girls are completely immature. If they were all high schoolers i'd understand, but Julie is 30 years old. That's just inexcusable. So fucking grow up, drop the pointless God-hating, take some guitar lessons and get back to me.

12:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And as for that whole "waste of sperm and eggs" line....you stole that from the Nirvana "Incesticide" liner notes, right? Right. You know, if you're gonna' try to put me down you could at least be original about it.

12:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sick of all of this Wanz-bashing. You know, the dude put together an awesome festival for people to enjoy. He is supporting the bands AND the fans, and he also just so happens to be one of both. I can't think of how much the guy has done for the North Texas music scene through the years. He brought cool bands like Silver Apples and Six Finger Satellite to The Argo back when we were just a tiny speck on the map. I'm pretty sure he's a large reason why Denton doesn't get so overlooked now by new, up and coming touring acts. I don't really care if he may be an asshole in person or not. The dude is busting his ass for us to have a good time and that has to account for something.

3:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't like Enya, so why should I like Fight Bite?

4:06 PM  
Anonymous Leanne said...

c!tr wasn't about bashing anything. you guys take things too seriously. an upside down cross is called a joke. did you ever see us? we wore handcuffs and blindfolds when we played. we weren't really trying to compete with Paganini. look at our fucking name.
no one cares if you live to be 30 or get hit by a fucking bus, 12:28. "grow up" and sign you're fucking name.

6:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thomaslogan is a fucking idiot. get a clue. follow kyle to quebec, dipshit. we're better off without you.

7:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That sounds pretty defensive to me, Julie. I'm sorry, but that doesn't sound like the Leanne I know. Sounds like Julie McKendrick. Perhaps you've been around Julie so much that you're turning into her? And are you seriously trying to push the upside down cross thing off as a joke? Do you think we're all a bunch of morons? You know damn well that christianity makes for an easy target, especially in our "underground" youth culture. It's funny, because ctr is all about women's rights, yet you're against religious freedom. And why can't you capitalize? When you capitalize it shows that you have more of a handle over the language you're using to communicate. And what is the exclamation point after the "c" in c!tr all about? And I fucking care if you don't live to be 30 or get hit by a fucking bus. Believe it or not, I still really care about you, Leanne. I still care about Julie too. I don't understand what death has to do with any of this.

And I really don't understand what happened. All I know is that I had some really nice friends and then all of a sudden they started hating Christ and I became a christian and it's all over. You know, it was all so much cooler when we weren't in bands. We didn't have these inflated ego's and we were just kids.

Oh wait....we were always in bands.

7:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And please leave Thomas out of this.

7:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey, misguided motherfucker-i'm not julie or leanne. like you said, kyle's not the only one who hates the ctr circle so guess what, there are more than enough people that hate you right back. who cares who or what you still care about? you call people talentless and then say you care about them? rot slowly in isolation you fuck.

ps-ctr was never about women's rights.

8:02 PM  
Anonymous julie said...

this is Julie please stop mentioning me --I have nothing to do with this post --I do not deserve this --all I wanted was to have fun with my friends and hopefully entertain others --we do not think we are cool --in fact we are the complete opposite and that was the whole point of CTR --so now you criticize Leanne for doing something more personal --what kind of friends are or were you to her?

9:36 PM  
Anonymous stonedranger said...

I can tell that this is mostly a personal argument about stuff I know nothing about, but I really don't think you can say that an upside down cross, or even being opposed to Christianity in general, is in any way "anti religious freedom." Such an argument might be a Republican talking point, but it makes absolutely no sense.

1:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"underground youth culture"?

MOM, GET OFF MY INTERNET AND LEAVE MY FRIENDS ALONE!

9:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And Jesus loves the c!tr!

10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So be it. We'll see who's right in the end.

12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

right about what now?

1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I couldn't disagree with you more, stonedranger. When a bunch of my friends are suddenly walking around in upside down cross t-shirts and making albums with upside down crosses on them, drawing upside down crosses all over their bodies at shows and encouraging others to do the same, while making "Jeebus" and christian jokes left and right, it COMPLETELY affects my religious freedom. What, do you think, that I could just casually tell them: "Hey guys, I really think that your shirts are insulting as I am a christian and it feels like you guys are giving the finger to my befiefs and my God in a not so discreet way." No way. They would laugh in my face, and then when they found out that I wasn't just messing with them but actually telling the truth, they would try to erase any link that I ever had to them. Christianity is absolutely uncool to most people in the scene.

It has been a constant battle against downright God-haters ever since I became a christian last summer. Everywhere I went was just teeming with sacrilege and dissent towards Christ. Hating christians is the new cool thing to do it seems. The noise/black metal/H.O.T. scene is especially hard to get into while being a christian. Do you think I could EVER speak my beliefs without getting completely railed by some dude in a Bathory or CTR shirt? Forget it.

I'm sorry, but I just think it is completely immature and sacreligious to walk around wearing an upside down cross, especially when you probably haven't read the bible and you're just doing it as a "joke" or to "fit in" with the punx. And it forces me to either 1)retreat from my friends or 2)build up a wall(lie) to make everything run smooth. I think people should think before they go and insult a very large group of people for no good reason.

1:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait. There's CTR shirts? Sweet! The Anon Phenom has reached a new low when the faceless are now damning people to hell. You sound like Jesse Helms, yo. Kill the queers!

1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:35 - Whether or not you would get "completely railed" for speaking your beliefs has nothing to do with your religious freedom. The fact that you can say what you believe, and that others can do the same, and neither of you will be jailed for it, proves we are all entitled to freedom of religion. You and other Christians whining about religious persecution is beyond ridiculous. Christianity is the most popular religion in the world, and you live in the bible belt. You're allowed to have your beliefs, and it's not hard to find others with your same beliefs - there are probably a several hundred within a 10 mile radius of where you live. I love how it becomes "persecution" when you hear others express a dissenting opinion. If this was true, couldn't a case be made that atheists are being "persecuted" every time they hear the Pledge of Allegiance, or every time the president says "God bless America", or every time they drive by a church with a religious message on their marquee, or when they're being sworn in as a witness in a trial and are required to place their hand on a bible, or every time they see a Christians car with religious magnets and bumper stickers on it?

It doesn't matter what you think is sacreligious, people in this country are allowed to express their views of religion just as much as you are, and both expressions are equally valid and legal.

4:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the part where 1:35 crawls down off the cross and says "But Islam is the most popular religion in the world!" in hopes of having anything to say other than "poor me". Sounds like someone is more concerned with what T-shirts say than they are confident in their faith.

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how in the hell has this gotten to the point of personal attacks on these girls? this post isn't even about CTR, who were fucking great, by the way. say what you want about bands but how dare you personally attack these people. whoever you are, you're very disturbed.

5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

christianity is a dualist religion dumbass. you like god, i like the devil. me wearing an upside down cross supports MY religion, not yours fuckhole. deal with it, without the devil you don't have a fucking religion. see you in hell.

5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and yeah, SIGN YOUR FUCKING NAME!

5:05 PM  
Anonymous 5:04 said...

and that's MY religious freedom. that's right satanist count too.

5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

of course people in an underground music scene are for the most part have problems with christianity. i mean give me a fucking break. you're talking about a fringe niche in society that has problems with most aspects of socio-political structures. they are relating as an underground artistic entity mostly totally based on the community of being rejected by mainstream religios/political/social aspects. this is all they've got. as a christian you get the whole fucking rest of society. enjoy it and stop bitching. what the fuck. are you that fucking dense.

5:13 PM  
Anonymous andrew michael said...

wow. i just read all of this drama today. a bit late, but never to late to add to the conversation, though my message is simple. julie and leanne are really two wonderful people who don't deserve such harsh treatment.

5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Diagnostic criteria for schizophrenia


Delusions - false beliefs strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness


1. Paranoid delusions, or delusions of persecution, for example believing that people are "out to get" you, or the thought that people are doing things when there is no external evidence that such things are taking place.
2. Delusions of reference - when things in the environment seem to be directly related to you even though they are not. For example it may seem as if people are talking about you or special personal messages are being communicated to you through the TV, radio, or other media.
3. Somatic Delusions are false beliefs about your body - for example that a terrible physical illness exists or that something foreign is inside or passing through your body.
4. Delusions of grandeur - for example when you believe that you are very special or have special powers or abilities. An example of a grandiose delusion is thinking you are a famous rock star.

A short summary of a list of negative symptoms are:

1. lack of emotion - the inability to enjoy regular activities (visiting with friends, etc.) as much as before
2. Low energy - the person tends to sit around and sleep much more than normal
3. lack of interest in life, low motivation
4. Affective flattening - a blank, blunted facial expression or less lively facial movements, flat voice (lack of normal intonations and variance) or physical movements.
5. Alogia (difficulty or inability to speak)
6. Inappropriate social skills or lack of interest or ability to socialize with other people
7. Inability to make friends or keep friends, or not caring to have friends
8. Social isolation - person spends most of the day alone or only with close family

9:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love to watch all of you get so defensive, putting up your little shields and your "Screw you, motherfucker!!! I'll believe what I want!!!!!" stances. God, you're all so fucking simple. Man...I wonder what I should say next to piss all of you off? Hmmm.....

9:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And 20 against 1 is really fair, assholes. Yeah, maybe i'll just try and change fucking history and NOT be offended by your immature sacrilegious bullshit godhating stances. God, you could have at least fucking rocked!! Fuck, I don't like where Slayer and Dark Throne are coming from, but at least they fucking wail! And c!@!!!tr certainly does NOT fucking wail. You're like an aids ridden whale fart or something. EEEEEKKKK!! EEEEEKKKK! poo. You all suck and take giant dumps on everything good art stands for. What happened to good girl bands like Wayward Girl and The Sillies? You suck.

11:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YEAH! NOT FAIR!

11:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, it isn't fair. All you creeps do is gang up on someone who has a different opinion than you. Everyone knows that ctr blows. You girls are just sticking up for you clique, cuz you don't want to look suckier than you already are.

By the way, Fight bite isa amazing. I think what you're doing now is the coolest thing that's hit Texas in years. It makes me think of Enya, yeah, but it also makes me think of My Bloody Valentine. Way to go, Leanne! Keep at it, and stay away from the ctr crowd. They can only hurt you.

12:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow 12:10 you're really fucking completely clueless. "stay away from the ctr crowd?" you mean, the crowd that pertains to the band that she was actually in? girls sticking up for their clique, huh? not all girls here. and your backhanded compliment to fight bite is really stupid too. whoever you are and whoever the weird, self centered christian defender is (same person) deserve to be ganged up on. you're mean spirited shitbags. and bringing up wayward girl and the sillies just proves that you're another 90's denton apologist who can't grow out of their predictable nostalgia. grow up. aren't you thirty something +?

12:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothin' wrong with being 30. Somethin' wrong with being 12:10. Come on.

12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you're right, nothing wrong with being thirty. i'm one to talk. however, anytime someone is so simpleminded as to just think of the first band they can think of that had female members from ten or fifteen years ago whenever a more current band is brought up, then age should be mentioned. because this is usually the dying last gasp argument method employed by the aging who are deathly afraid of becoming irrelevant and historically replaced by a younger wave of musicians who don't hold the same reverence for early 90's fugazi opening bands that they do and wave it in your face as if you're completely ignorant. well, unfortunately for me I'm familiar enough with local music history to know that there were NEVER any good ol' days around here. fuck these people.

12:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm with you!

12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh shut up Heater, Floppers, Kara, Sasha, Julie, whoever the fuck. You're all the fucking same. You're like the beast with 7 heads from revelations or something. The Bitch With 7 Heads!!! HAHAAA!! Fucking creeps. What would you be doing if you weren't making the world a shittier place for all of us?

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh bullshit, 12:33pm. Bullshit. Do you think bands like Christian Teenage Runaways and Kaboom have ANYTHING on bands like The Oddfellows, Sillies, Reds, Kid Chaos, Skeleton Kids, Dooms UK, or Wayward Girl? Fuck no. Fuck no. You haven't lived in Denton for more than 5 years, so what the fuck would you know anyways? Were you even alive when The Wannabe Manor was in existance? Probably not. Oh? You don't know what that is? Shame.

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they graduated or something. School usually only takes 4 years.

2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Oh bullshit, 12:33pm. Bullshit. Do you think bands like Christian Teenage Runaways and Kaboom have ANYTHING on bands like The Oddfellows, Sillies, Reds, Kid Chaos, Skeleton Kids, Dooms UK, or Wayward Girl?"

I know who those bands are and I don't care. I heard them all, they're fine, great, whatever. They mean nothing to me. Get over it. I was around for all that shit and I don't care. I'm probably close to your age. I never lived in Denton but I know all of that and I was around for all of it. Fuck your shit. CTR and Kaboom rule.

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

2:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CTR and Kaboom really suck. I thought everyone knew this. Yeah, CTR is better than The Sillies. Whatever. CTR isn't even as good as Mushroom Groovy. I would rather see the 420 Blues Band than CTR. Or The String Cheese Incident.

2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, then you have really good taste. What can I say?

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet We Shot Jr is really getting off on all of this negative energy. You people live for this garbage, don't you? I bet you're thinking: 'Man, we really shouldn't post anything else today, cuz all this hate is just too precious to throw away." You assholes know that the second you put up your next story, this shit gets put away until you decide to actually create an archives section. That's a pretty limited thing about this web page....Bands, you're only cool to We Shot Jr for about a week, and then the next hot story must come along and you must go. It's perfect for wsjr though, you guys will always have something new to trash or ass kiss. You're much like the casino in that you're the only real winners. You guys win!

2:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If WSJR would just do a write up for Kyle then he would leave everyone alone. He is only upset because he doesn't get enough coddling. It angers him when his friends get any attention. There is no reason to argue with someone who changes their opinions at a drop of a dime. He has no idea what he is talking about. Kyle is the only one leaving the rude posts. Just give him a write up about how he is the most talented, smartest,and righteous person in the world and then he will leave us alone.

The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven.

And when the people saw him, they praised their god: for they said, Our god hath delivered into our hands our enemy, and the destroyer of our country, which slew many of us.

3:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If WSJR would just do a write up for Kyle then he would leave everyone alone. He is only upset because he doesn't get enough coddling. It angers him when his friends get any attention. There is no reason to argue with someone who changes their opinions at a drop of a dime. He has no idea what he is talking about. Kyle is the only one leaving the rude posts. Just give him a write up about how he is the most talented, smartest,and righteous person in the world and then he will leave us alone.

The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven.

And when the people saw him, they praised their god: for they said, Our god hath delivered into our hands our enemy, and the destroyer of our country, which slew many of us.

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kyle is right! kyle is right! kyle is right! How could anyone dispute that? I do not understand how no one knows how insightfully he is. I just wish he still lived in Denton. I miss those times when he would get really drunk and smash things. Those were the good days. Kyle please move back, Denton is talentless without you. We all miss your negativity.

3:16 PM  

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