J.R. Awards: Time to Count Those Votes!
As promised, here are the rest of the J.R. Award results. One funny thing to note: The Cavern is apparently the third BEST venue in town, but is simultaneously the WORST venue in town. You picked em, not us.
BEST VENUE: DOUBLEWIDE (2. Rubber Gloves; 3. The Cavern)
WORST BAND: BELAFONTE (2. Black Tie Dynasty; 3. Strangleweed)
BEST NEW ACT: TIE: FRA PANDOLF; PRAYER FOR ANIMALS
WORST VENUE: CAVERN
BEST DJ: WANZ DOVER (2. Wild in the Streets; 3. DJ Nature)
BEST EXPERIMENTAL: MAZINGA PHASER II (2. Undoing of David Wright; 3. Silk Stockings)
Now we don't know which bands voted for themselves a bunch of times and blah blah blah, but theres nothing we can do about it anyway. So there you have it. We'll do this again in December as well.
posted by stonedranger at 2:18 AM
28 Comments:
prayer for animals.... those guys clearly loaded the ballot box
possibly, but what can you do?
I don't know what the other guy was trying to say, but that isn't what I was trying to say. We like your band here, and you are a new band that won in the "new band" category. So that makes sense.
And you did have every right to vote for yourselves, and you would have had every right to stuff the ballot box if you wanted to, because everyone else could have as well... although I don't think anyone stuffed the ballot in any of the categories, and that includes Prayer for Animals and every other band.
The process wasn't perfect, but the results were as fair as they could possibly be. And I'm sure just about every band voted for themselves, so who cares?
Congrats on winning.
for the record I woted for myself for DJ and my vote was not anonymous(sorry curtain club). One bandmate voted for us for best shoes. That being said. Wow. I did not see this coming. I am kind of stoked and truly honored. So if anyone is bored tonight I will be celebrating at The cavern for Lost Generation. I am doing a Nikki Sudden tribute tonight. If you have never heard the record he did with Roland s Howard from The Birthday Party on Creation records tonight is the night. I have a friend buring my vinyl to CD so I can drop tracks from it tonight.I can't wait for everyone to hear the Black Arm band record we started recording last week. No one will expect something like this from someone like me.......or maybe they will. I am doing 2 very different Mazinga discs at the same time. It is also not what people expect from that. Thanks again to everyone who voted and congrats to Undoing of David Wright. I love those guys. They deserve it.Cheers!!!!
Woohoo a blog likes you!So honored.No trophies and no cookies...wait,the blog didn't vote for you... You voted for yourselves, so woohoo YOU like you. DOes this make any sense? No. Vote for you if you like yourself?! Can't say Dallas bands have any self esteem problems. The more friends you have the more votes you have, it doesnt matter if you're good or bad. Viva la Insanity!
I agree with everybody.
Congratulations to the winners. Now if you could only be as good as me.. hee
I vote for myself in one category.Best DJ. I did not vote for my band and I don't have many friends at all. I don't think I should be ashamed that a few people decided hey this guy does some cool stuff. On a regular day to day basis I have to take shit from all of the litle indie hipster kids who think they are cooler than cool because they heard a Faust record last week. "Wanz your a whiner", "Wanz hates Dallas(taken totally out of context)", "Wanz your bands suck and your singer(who was my significant other at the time) can't sing". I am an artist. A committed one. Making great music is my only purpose in life. I also have a decade resume of helping other overlooked local bands often at the expense of my own career. I'm sure I will probably not even be nominated for the observer awards. I will take my wins where I can. No ballot stuffing here. I almost did not even vote until someone pushed me into it and even when I did I made up my own categories so I could do it proper. Why do people feel the need to dis on me so frackin much. Thanx anyways. I read this blog often and agree with a lot of the stuff written on here.Cheers and have a blessed day. oh yeah Silk Stocking is the best band in Texas and one of the best in the country. Get some soul and go check them out.
right on, Wanz. And its pretty sad that you have to defend yourself in the comments thread of a post in which you won an award. People are assholes. But congrats on winning, even if it is a small thing. I went through the votes myself, and a lot of people that read this site obviously like what you do.
congrats to all of the winners. obviously this system has "flaws" but it's just a blog... so no big deal.
... the winners should feel proud, i think this site's readers have to be some of the most knowledgeable (i probably, somewhat ironicaly, spelled that wrong) music fans in the area.
that being said, if you won b/c you begged all your myspace friends to vote, or voted multiple times or paid 12 year olds to vote multiple times.... well... then... we're never going to know, but you know so hopefully you aren't to proud of yourselves.
(oh, and obviously it's not bullshit at all for someone to vote for themselves as themselves (mwanz)... especially since you're the only DJ i frequently go out of my way to see)
.... so anyway... congrats to the winners
...and a plate of large cookies goes to the makers of this site. it's like a big round-table discussion only we get to wear masks if we want and we can say whatever the hell we want.... it's been fun seeing the site go from having maybe 1 or 2 comments per blog to having upwards of 20 somewhat regardless of the topic
oh...and prayer for animals... i think maybe certain people may have thought something whack was going on when someone voted for you guys in every single category (including: venue, dj, worst band, etc).
.... doubtful that it was the bands own doing ...but your name was on something that kinda mocked this whole deal
on another hand: mwanz, you deserve much more credit than you get.... someday it will all prove worth it
undoing: you are not just the best band in dallas, but texas... and perhaps one of the best underground bands in the world..... the show at RGRS was way fun dispite a couple of false starts... i thought y'all might totaly freak out the girls we brought w/ us, but i heard no complaints.
...the venue part only proves to me that we need more venues.... badly
so who wants to start a venue?
10 people +1,000 = starting $
Wanz writes, "I also have a decade resume of helping other overlooked local bands," and I totally back him up on that. I've known him for almost 10 years, and I've yet to witness him treat any local band like shit. He was the best booking agent Denton's Argo ever had, and he tirelessly promotes local music, even while getting knocked down time and time again by the local music community.
Just to set the record straight I wasn't knocking anyone and I sure wasn't knocking Mwanza. My comment only meant that this is a blog, not the Nobel peace prize- so yeah feel good that people like you. If you voted for yourself (multiple times) feel good that you like you (and have lots of time on your hands)but really do you need anyone to tell you you're good? Do you need your ego stroked in a blog? Isn't it enough that people prove it by coming to your shows, buying your cd's and maybe giving you a pat on the back at the shows? My point is awards are dumb. And this isn't directed at anyone.
To anyone that cares:
Fra Pandolf will be playing tomorrow night at the Darkside Lounge in Deep Ellum (yeah, yeah, yeah - I know Deep Ellum sucks, but we saw Part Chimp there - it's a pretty cool place) with Kneepad and The Timeline Post. I hear the Timeline Post sucks, but I really have no idea.
Starts at 9 or some jazz.
Should be fun.
Thanks to everyone that voted for Double-Wide as best venue.
We 'preciate ya!
New venues would be good but I think it's more about utilizing what we have for GOOD not EVIL.
&It's true, Mwanza's band should've won for best shoes.
Just let it be said that WeShotJR is just a blogsite,
but a blogsite that I tend to agree w/ more often than not.
Keep up the good work boys keep up the shady voting process.
JeremyJ.
PRAYER FOR ANIMALS
I was Mazinga minion who voted for ourselves for best shoes. Wasnt there a prize for that improvised
voting category? Please make checks payable to:
Sebastian Machine
P.S.
BREAKING NEWS:
SCIENTISTS DISCOVER THAT WESHOTJR.COM IS, IN FACT, JUST A BLOGSITE.
In other news area boys simultaneously continue shady voting and good work. Film at 11.
Thank you for your votes. For the record I voted Mazinga Phaser as best and worst. Though I value my growth and experience I was in a band where I was "given" covers to learn in a day or two then I had to disgard them after one gig. Not once was I allowed to pick a cover that we ever had time to rehearse. I had to learn a whole bunch of old Mazinga songs and fill in for beloved Jessica Newsome without suffering much by comparison. These songs were then dropped with the loss of former original Mazinga Phaser members Travis and Paul. Finally, new songs that I get to sing get tossed either before leaving on a tour or as we approached NYC. I was told to learn how to program music. Funny, when you do you start to actually contribute to the sound all of the sudden you notice you get to stand around pretending that you are playing music, and of course there was also the many times I was told to scream and get mad to improve my voice. I carried gear all year. I grew by leaps and bounds on tour (Just ask someone who was there). I am not just a pretty face in a skirt. I loved touring and I loved NYC. I contributed a great deal of my own time and money towards this project and towards the planning of Mazinga II's recent tour. Not to mention rehearsing every day either alone or with the many Mazinga line-ups. "This is for us," means me working to accomplish someone elses dreams and goals without questioning. I didn't plan for that. Trust was what I had. Now, I have to give it all up because once again the vision has changed. Mazinga II is no longer a partnership. Sorry, that you all wont get to see me show you what I could really do in Mazinga II. The only thing anybody got to see after the tour was me picking up playing the guitar in just one rehearsal. Now, Ineka is just another ghost in the Mazinga Phaser Machine or is was Mazinga Phaser just another phase for me. Wait and see.
Uh..
WELL..... it's an interesting comment even if it came out of nowhere.....
encouraged by amphetimines?
that's my guess.
ANON, about the Amphetamines let me just say that you obviously don't know me or my situation. Here is a little more information so you can get your story straight here. I suppose that someone has been dragging my name though the mud while I have been trying to heal my wounds. You "ANON" haven't had the opportunity to see me face to face and know the facts. I am healthy and in good company. Or perhaps, this is written by someone that I do know. I can only speculate that I am not able to see you "ANON" for the sake of my own peace of mind and I have determined that it is not in my best interest to be in your company. However, if you did know me then you would have seen first hand that I went though some pretty hard knocks in this situation to put it very mildly. For the record, I was on Aderall because my partner told me that it would help our ADD and our problems communicating. I did a lot of reseach and thought that it was worth a try if it would save my relationship. I hate speed. Never liked it never will, but I was desperate for a solution to our problems. So, my partner and I both went to a doctor for diaganosis and medication. It did not help the problems obviously. It also made me have terrible health problems on the tour so I weened myself off of it in the middle of the tour. I still have a slight bladder infection lingering. I am 35 and I hope to maybe have a kid someday so this is not for me it was only a temporary thing for me anyway. Excercise has been my solution my ADD not Aderall. This is not good stuff for anybody really. Now, I know. Anybody who knows me knows that I am very health conscious because I am physical performance artist. I have work ethic,ambition, and perseverance like nobodies business. Really, at my age should I look the way I do if I was on speed? Please, I supported my partner and the project for as long as I could, but there is only so much that one person can take. I tried to do the right thing here. I had Aderall pills left after the tour, but does not mean that I am taking any. Not at all. Infact, I should incorporate the remaining Aphetamines pills into a new art project to vent my frustration on this very subject. Right now I am still living on wheatgrass juice, fruits, nuts, soup and peanutbutter sandwiches. Just like when I was on tour. I can't afford much else because I am paying rent on two residences and still covering the remainder of the bills that are in my name. Should I go on about this? Nah...Let me say instead that saved up I paid all my bills in advance for january and February before leaving for my tour. I am a resposible dedicated artist who has always supported herself as well as others. I am no saint, but I am not a dead beat drug addict musician or artist. I am just trying to do the right thing for myself before I lose anymore than I already have lost. I had the decency to stay out of public until I could get over my emotions enough to be around people again. I don't like crying in public. I have been creating, organizing and putting my ducks in a row as usual. I sleep 8 hours most nights and I am trying to recover from my losses. I am trying to make it on my own once again as usual. This was only a small chapter in my life. I asked for nothing, but at a little respect for trying to make this Mazinga thing work. There was no mention of me by any parties on this blogg which I think is pretty crappy, but I can accept that. All I wanted to do was say my peace finally. So, I get accused of being a drug addict. If you don't think I did a decent job playing in Mazinga II I can take that criticism, but you don't take into consideration that for the last nine months Mazinga was my job seven days a week. I was also pretty much a house wife and dedicated myself to helping my partner as any good partner does. I put everything I had into this. I have my dreams too. I am not just a girlfriend. I am an accomplished artist who is always willing to support other artists and the community. Now, I have to start over without my partner or Mazinga. Of course, I do have my other projects too. I have my work cut out for me here. There is no time or money for recreational drugs much less a doctor's visit $100.00 and medication $60.00 on the cheap. I hate speed and what it has done to people in this town. I say it all the time. I feel the same about coke. So, if I catch you out sometime why don't you ask me about my life and what I am doing now. I will be happy to show you what I am really made of anytime. You may not know me, but I have been working hard making my mark for as long as I can remember. I am no Mwanza Dover, but I am the best Ineka Guerra that I can be.
Ineka-
In all of this, did you ever once think to yourself, maybe, just maybe, you should take the high road in this situation and not air out your dirty laundry in a public forum? It would have been the smartest and most professional approach in my opinion. I mean, NOT making yourself look BAD is the goal here isn't it?
but then again...
You're right. I am out.
Haha, I refuse to read that.
Probably a good thing. Woe be to those who cross a pissed off chick on the rag. At least it was just the dirty socks. WTF was I thinking....
ineka, a dorm room, 89'. robert plant and passing out in the shower, good times. refreshing to see how little has changed, really. your pain is understandable, i do miss assorted silliness at rocky horror. oh well, please accomplish the obligatory remembrances, and then accomplish any damn thing you bloody well want to. bye.
Wanz,
You are the greatest. Thank you for everything you have done. You are the reason Texas has an indie scene today.
Much love,
Greg.
PS. Transona Five is recording in Dallas in August in a hidden batcave :-)
To Ineka...
I'm sorry for putting you through the new york trip bullshit and everything that surrounded it. I kind of lost my marbles and working within rational.
That trip has caused more problems in our lives than it was worth. I feel responsible for a lot of unneccesary strife between us over this. I am Sorry.
I hope you can some day forgive me.
Cheers!!!
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