Monday, October 09, 2006

8 Questions with The Black Angels

In anticipation of the Black Angels show this Wednedsay at the Gypsy Tea Room, we asked guitarist Christian Bland some questions about his band, life in Austin, Anton Newcomb, The Strange Boys and Texas Psychedelic rock. What I find most interesting about many of his responses is the way he talks about musical influences and drawing from the past. Critics of the band often dismiss them as a throw back act, but the self awareness with which they approach their 60's influences makes the whole thing a bit more complicated than their detractors would like it to be. It also helps that they write great psychedelic rock songs that often don't really sound like the 1960's at all. Here are our questions:

It seems that a lot of people in the media refer to you as a "revival" band, claiming that you look backward to 60's psychedelic rock not only for musical inspiration but for looks, attitude and quite a bit more. Do these kinds of statements bother you? Do you think there is anything wrong, per se, with a band that looks to the past openly and often?

We draw our inspiration from the Creative Revolution that occured in the 1960's. In our opinion, theres been no other time in history where music was so central and involved in social and political change. We hope to continue the tradition of Psychedelic music that was born here in 1966 with the the 13th Floor Elevators. I think its our duty to keep the spirit alive by paying homage to our forefathers, but by also pushing it into new territory. Our second album will put the revivalist talk to rest, but overall, we're proud to represent the 60's sound in a modern context.

Another thing the music press loves discussing in relation to your band is drug use. Do drugs play a role in either the band's social life or in the actual creative process? If not, do you think they could or should?

I think that drugs have been made a scapegoat. Anything that is used in excess will cause harm. Eat too much brocolli, and you might get cancer. When drugs are used properly they can open new doorways. When they are used unintelligently they will cause harm.. I think society has made taking drugs seem evil. As a kid we were made to take our DARE classes. Its good to learn about what drug abuse can lead to, but what about learning how drugs might facilitate the creative process? By no means do we condone taking any drugs (unless theres enough for everyone).

What is it with Texas and psychedelic rock? I read an interview with Secret Machines recently in which they claimed that the hot, muggy Texas weather is the perfect breeding ground for spaced out stoner rock. I'm not sure if I think its entirely true, but Texas sure seems to have its fair share of psychedelic rock bands, and I think its been pretty constant since the mid 60s. Any thoughts on why that is? Does it have something to do with escapism perhaps?

Well, like i said earlier. The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators were born in 1966 in Austin, TX. Psychedelic music was started in Austin, so its only right that the tradition be kept alive. (Another late 60's band from Houston to check out is The Red Crayola. Get the first album, "Parable of Arabel Land'. ) I think all our songs are about some form of Escapism. Thats a central theme to our music. The conservative environemnt that hovers over our State can create a feeling of distrust, and a desire to leave altogether. We make music to cope with this.

Do you enjoy living in Austin? Do you find it conducive to creativity, or do you find that it merely has that reputation? It seems that Austin is just as much about Starbucks and yuppies as it is about anything else these days, and I wonder how the artistic community has responded to Austin's growth over the past decade. Could you tell us about some of the good and bad things happening in Austin music and art these days?

The reason Austin has a reputation as being a creative environment is because its true. Austin isnt like the rest of Texas. However, we purposely stay away from the yuppie/starbucks side of Austin. Thats fake living. We live in the 'Real' section of town, on the east side, with the real people. Many artisits are migrating to East Austin because its cheaper to live here. Soon the city will see this, and taxes will go up over here (as they already are). The goal of the city planners is to make Austin a center for the Capitalist Republicans. Poor folks aren't desired. As for the music scene here, no Austin band has really blown us away. The only other Texas band we really like is The Strange Boys. They draw from all the right influences.

I've noticed that you guys seem to have some sort of relationship with Anton Newcomb. Could you tell us how you met, what you think of him as a person, and what you think of BJM as a band?

Antion Newcombe is a genius. He's the modern day BobDylan/John Lennon/ Syd Barrett wrapped into one. We met Anton during the 2004 SXSW. BJM is the perfect example of a band that draws inspiration from the Creative Revolution in the 1960's, but has brought it into a modern day context. Our favorite story about him is when we got to play with him this past SXSW. The rest of his band was stranded in Phoenix and they were suppsed to play the festival. Instead, we took the BJM slot and learned a Jonestown song right before we went on. Anton played with us as his backing band for about 15 minutes. Hes an awesome person, Dont let the movie DIG! fool you.

Could you tell us a bit about your songwriting process? How does the band go about writing songs, and what are some of the things that inspire you musically and lyrically?

A lot of the time i'll come in with a new riff and we'll build around it. Alex writes most of the lyrics, but he and I collaborate just as often. Sometimes we just start to jam in practice and then all of a sudden a song is born. I think the thing that inspires us most is seeking the Truth and telling people about it.

It seems that you guys are quite good at building and manipulating moods through repetition and simple, minimal song structures much like electronic dance music often does. Do you see any relationship between the music you make and some forms of dance music?

Yeah for sure. We're all about the minimalist, repetitve drone. We make music to groove to. Our music is Hypno-drone. Check out the Silver Apples & Psychic Ills; masters of drone n roll.

You guys have a pretty good relationship with one of Dallas' better bands, the Strange Boys. Could you tell us how you met, what you think of their music, and what your impressions are of Dallas' musical community?

The Strange Boys are our favorite band in Texas. Theres no one else that gets it like they do. We met them at a show at the Avenue Arts Venue in Dallas. Ryan was in the front row with an old tape recorder capturing the show. I thought that was cool, because i would have been doing the same thing. They all draw from the right inspirations (plus anyone who knows 'The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll' by heart is a friend of mine) and I think/hope they are the future of the Dallas music scene. I dont really know many other Dallas bands. They stand out above the rest.

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97 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

SR's questions: good as usual.

Black Angels answers: The most painful thing I've read in some time. Now I know where these bands come from. Exactly where you think they come from.

12:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AUSTIN!

1:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am probably into a lot of what the black angels consider "the right influences," but I'm really disappointed in their responses as well. And i used to think Anton Newcombe was OK as well, 10 yrs ago before I realized he was a drama-hound (unlike his correct influences). And I haven't even seen the movie Dig.

1:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How did that Black Heart band get on the bill? Please tell me they're on first, so we can avoid them and see 2 good bands.

8:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Schtick.

What a bunch of posers.

10:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The strangeboys wouldn't even make my top ten list in dallas, i don't get the hype. My ten year old sister likes the black angels. They sound like the monkeys compared to the elevators.

10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE EVERYONE STAY AWAY FROM THE RIGHT INFLUENCES OR YOU WILL SOUND LIKE THIS PIECE OF CRAP BAND.

10:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Strange Boys are the only other good band in Texas huh? I like both bands, but the angels come off a little shallow and self absorbed in this interview.

10:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the angels before the got the eyecandy that plays keyboard with one hand. I don't think roky would of sold out with a piece of ass in the front of the stage.

10:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

notes from the undergound are carrying the torch of texas psychedelic music much better than the angels.

atleast its better than tripping daisy.

10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

for such "right influences" he is naming rock and roll 101 influences and comes off like he is the first to site the silver apples and red crayola. What a douche.

10:40 AM  
Blogger Zine-O-Phonic said...

I like the music they play, and I think the interview was alright, but i hate to see him seem as shortsighted as the critics who often bash his band.

I'm still looking forward to the show.

And that one song "if you play in texas, you gotta have a fiddle in the band" should now be changed to "you gotta have a girl playing keyboards in the band".

10:50 AM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

"sold out?" "Eye candy?" I hope thats a joke, because it sounds like one. Yes, their keyboard player does have a very sexy stage presence (last time I checked, that was a good thing), but I would hardly call having a girl in the band selling out. And so what if she plays simple parts? Are we all roadies for Rush? Does everything have to be difficult? I think her keyboard parts do add to the music in a positive way, and thats all I care about.

As for the other comments, they are pretty much exactly what I expected. Sometimes its hard for me to tell if people are honestly expressing their opinions on here or if they are simply allowing jealous tendencies to shine through, but I'll assume for the purposes of this comment that they are actual opinions.

I asked the first question because I don't think there is anything wrong with a band being open about its influences. When you think about it, many of us like the music we do because the musicians in question have the right influences. This isn't to say that we actually think about our favorite bands in that way, but if they weren't influenced by good stuff, well, they simply wouldn't be very good. Part of why Linkin Park sucks is because they have crap influences and even worse execution. Part of why Liars are good is because they listen to and are influenced by good music. Plain and simple. Of course, its what they do with those influences that matters, but the influences have to be there first.

Not liking the Black Angels because you don't like their music is another story, and not really a matter that we can debate. And maybe you don't like the way christian phrased some of his responses, which is also a matter of taste. But I just don't really see why his references to his band's influences are all that problematic, especially since when you think about it, the Black Angels don't sound as much like a 60's band as people say they do.

10:58 AM  
Blogger Zak said...

I'm a fan of their music. I like their take on the psychedelic stuff with that repetitive drone. I've been looking forward to catching them live for awhile, but I'm trying to decide between Man Man and them that nite but the drive to Denton is loking like it may lose out.

I don't much see why they get all the negative press they have gotten, but I figured the reviewers just don't get the appeal of the band.

11:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YA MAN , LIKE DROP ACID
CONSERVE THE ENVIRONMENT
4 RL

11:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my only problem is saying that the ONLY other texas band that "gets it" is the strange boys, thats a huge fucking assumption.

11:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gets what? that it takes money, design connections and style to get any attention?

11:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I actually saw them open up for Clap Your Hands Say Yeah back in Oct 2005 @ Gypsy.

They had a decent live show musically - the presentation was just more schtick than my BS meter could handle.

They turned off all of the stage lights and the guy did his best Jim Morrison impression the whole time. And while they sounded okay, the presentation got old really fast. It worked for about 10 -15 minutes as an attention getter, but after that it was stale.

Which is not what music should be about, per se - presentation over actual music. But when you MAKE it about presentation - when you kill all the house lights and run a projector and what not, then you better deliver. And I didn't think they did.

11:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if the strange boys aren't on your dallas top ten list then your list is probably filled w/ friends bands and old bands that don't really matter anymore.

11:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree, putting the girl in the band a year after you form and play shows out is a concious move. I don't understand how he can comment on dallas music and than follow his statement with he doesn't know many bands in this area.

Man i wish i knew "the truth" like he does.

11:29 AM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

Thats true. When it comes to Dallas proper, the Strange Boys are one of the best, and unfortunately I don't think they have a lot of competition.

11:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

top ten lists are fucking stupid, lists are all about preference anyway, it doesn't matter what any of you grade better than something else, in the end, its not up to you.

and if the strange boys aren't in your "top ten" its probably because you don't like them, its that simple, presumptive asshole.

11:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm all for personal tastes... but if you don't realize the Strange Boys as a step ahead of a lot of dallas bands (prayer for animals, tah dahs, blackheart society) and tons less douchey than others (the drams) you're just not paying much attention.

the strange boys have a sound, attitude, and plan that lets me know that they KNOW that they are doing. and they KNOW how to get their music across to more than just friends.... other bands will just fade out and wonder why they never got more than 45 people at a show, the strange boys have paid attention and know what angles to work.

it's very obvious if you just talk to them. they have thought the whole thing out.

11:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the strange boys are not very good. I think if they got rid of the singer and the cheesy lyrics it mite be a bit better.

11:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sound, attitude, and plan.

You sound like a football coach. You dick head.

11:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Draw of an audience hardly reflects how good your music is. In fact it usually is the opposite.

11:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh, and whoever said this has my heart

"my only problem is saying that the ONLY other texas band that "gets it" is the strange boys, thats a huge fucking assumption.

9:12 AM
(this part, not the top part)
Anonymous said...
gets what? that it takes money, design connections and style to get any attention?

11:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

prayer for animals, tah dahs, blackheart society are who you are comparing????

11:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

like you can really understand the lyrics.

...and "draw" might not have anything to do w/ how "GOOD" your band is, but it certaintly has something to do w/ who notices that your band is GOOD. and bands that only promote to their best friends are clearly NOT in the know about how to promote music.

you don't put dave and skippy on the guest list, tell them to bring friends and call that promotion.

you find bands w/ the same (takes whistle out of his mouth) IDEAS, STYLE AND SOUND. you play shows w/ them.

you don't get your mom and her friends out to a show for wine spritzers. you get the photographer who takes all the pictures of all the cool bands, you get people who aren't ALREADY there.

now climb that fucking rope piss-ant!

11:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all my favorite bands in history didn't have much style, had no money, really didn't have much connection and didn't draw huge crowds. but my taste is "the truth"

Some people don't care about the photographers and some musicians really do play music because of music. Not how many people they can get to the show. Its not a bike race or a football game dick head.

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i would rather not climb that rope because the higher the monkey climbs the rope the more i see his tail.

11:46 AM  
Blogger Zak said...

Hah. I'm no musiciian, but I don't know if I have met a band yet that plays shows just for the music and doesn't care if anyone actually shows up. That's pretty funny. I didn't know that if you cared about people showing up to see you play and that if you have a lot of people at your shows you must not be any good. I'll make note of that next time I see a good band with a solid draw.

Also, I see people all the time saying that bands with style or whatever is a bad thing and long for the days in the 90s when indie-rock wasn't about that, etc. That's all bullshit. That anti-style thing is still a style. You can either be in costumes or you can wear a ratty clothes that makes it look like you don't care and haven't bathed in days and it's still the same thing in the end. It's all a look, just depends on who you are catering to.

12:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

your right, i just went to the nearest thrift store to buy a little black and white striped shirt. But the drug addict cash register girl told me the strange boy's manager just came and bought the last six striped t-shirts. Infact she told me the strange boys bought all the sweat shops in indonesia so they can start making little black and white striped t-shirts.

12:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JUST LIKE KURDT DID

12:30 PM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

see, even though I like the Strange Boys, 1020 was funny! Thats how you should insult people on here... be funny.

But honestly, I agree with Zak. The "I don't care about style" thing is so played out its not even worth talking about. Yes, there are lots of bands with lots of stylish clothes that really suck, and those bands deserve to be made fun of. But not liking a band simply because they are concerned about how they look is just as dumb as liking a band because they look cool. And while bands like Pavement and Guided By Voices truly didn't give a fuck about the way they looked, a lot of that 90's attitude WAS bullshit and WAS marketed just like everything else. Do you honestly think Kurt Cobain didn't care about his clothes?

12:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

black angels equal ego maniacs and that is speaking from experience. whatever high white horse they're riding on needs to be maimed so they can touch the ground and realize they're not the effing rolling stones and shouldn't have attitudes like they are.
trite ass answers.

12:41 PM  
Anonymous Robert E. Litist said...

"Hah. I'm no musician, but I don't know if I have met a band yet that plays shows just for the music and doesn't care if anyone actually shows up."

Well if the kids in the bands around here are trying to make music for a living, they need to take shit more seriously. Lose the gimmicks and work on songwriting.

It doesn't surprise me that in a world where everyone wants something quickly that we end up music as disposable as the fast food in our swollen bellies.

Listening to samples of the Strange Boys, I have to agree that the singer is the weak link, and they're sound is one step above Jet. Cue the Monkey.

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

eleven Denton/dallas/ft worth bands i like better than the strangeboys.

1. Cavedwellar- talk about style the guy has a voice like no one else and had a beard in denton before it was cool.
2. Burnt Seinna Trio- Lyrics that go on and on and J.C. has more style than anyone in the strangeboys.
3. Spitfire Tuble Weeds- Best live show in texas.
4. Warren Jackson Hearn- With the new lineup including paul slavens on accordian they are a site to see live.
5. Jet Screamer- Will is probably one of the best guitar players in town.
6. Silk Stocking- I've known liz now for five years and she has to be one of the best voices in town.
7. Record Hop- They have been doing it a long time and you will not see a more honest band.
8. David Wright- Larz has one of the most gifted stage presence out their. He is only going to get better as he gets some age and has more babies.
9. Notes from the underground- Noise, Noise, Noise. To bad they are dick heads
10. The Angelus- Emil has a voice that reminds me of getting molested in the back of the catholic church.
11. The Great Tyrant- If you never got to see Yeti than here is the next best thing.
I don't play in a band but do create art in other ways.These are the bands that i wish would get more notice around here.

1:10 PM  
Anonymous mc said...

- The Black Angels are one of the best things out of Austin right now. That is an indictment about how far downhill Austin music has fallen, but also pretty good praise for the Angels, who do the Spacemen 3 ripoff thing the right way - heavy on the minimalist drone, light on the 60s blues-riff Jonestown Massacre bullshit, regardless of what the singer says. He doesn't even play the music, does he?

- Did anybody know that the violin player for Hotel, Hotel (misco) was in the Black Angels for the past year (though I think he just quit)? Good solid Denton/Austin connection there. Even though the dude lives in Austin now. Very talented.

- I agree, this band needs to stop playing with the Strange Boys up here and stack up alongside some real Texas psyche like Notes/Fra/Stumptone etc.

1:15 PM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

We were talking about Dallas. Only one of those bands is from Dallas.

1:15 PM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

and I agree that there are a large handfull of good bands in Denton. But Dallas proper? Not so much.

1:16 PM  
Blogger Robo-Pirate said...

I've never heard this band, but I would have been more interested in them if they had name-dropped the Butthole Surfers.

Anyway, Great Tyrant is a really awesome band.

1:20 PM  
Anonymous Scott said...

Ducks/covers/bong hit/popcorn

I like the Black Angels... Love to see them with Notes from the Underground. Everybody should go see Burnt Sienna Trio on Thursday (Double Wide)with the great Phillip Roebuck and 100 Damned Guns.

1:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was looking forward to seeing The Black Angels until I read this interview. I think I will pass. They need to pocket their egos. I'm still down with The Strange Boys though.

2:02 PM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

I didn't think he came across as full of himself at all... I don't get it.

2:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck that i'm going to this show...i need to hear "the truth" and only for 8 dollars.

FUCK YEAH I FINALLY WILL KNOW ITS NOT ALL A LIE

2:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe a dude in a drug band isn't the most centered and rational person on the planet! Jeez, man, it's fucking rock and roll! You jerk's is crazy!

2:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Psychedelic music was started in Austin, so its only right that the tradition be kept alive."


I'd have to disagree. It could be argued that psychedelic music probably crawled forth out of the sounds and songs of ancient rituals and chanting from such places as Tibet, India, etc. It can also be argued that free jazz was an early form of psychedelic music as well. There is no ONE defining spot that this music was created in.

"As for the music scene here, no Austin band has really blown us away. The only other Texas band we really like is The Strange Boys. They draw from all the right influences. "

What are the "right" influences? What would the "wrong" influences be and what if they were mixed in the right way as to be pleasing to your ears? Must bands like all the music you like in order to be valid? I don't understand this "right influences" thing.

"Antion Newcombe is a genius. He's the modern day BobDylan/John Lennon/ Syd Barrett wrapped into one."



I'd have to give you a firm NO on that, but it's your opinion. Anton Newcombe spends his day riffing through left wing news reels on the internet and spreading his opinion on myspace while belittling his fans. I don't think there is a bigger waste of time and the artists you mentioned in league with him spent vast amounts of their time creating lasting timeless works of art- some good, some bad but nevertheless they are legends in their own right for breaking the dirt in. Anton Newcombe is no legend.

"I think the thing that inspires us most is seeking the Truth and telling people about it. "



Well, tell me about it. What is the Truth? Everyone just wants to be free? Love one another? What in the name of Newcombe is the truth?

"The Strange Boys are our favorite band in Texas. Theres no one else that gets it like they do."



Gets what? These answers are so VAGUE and while we can chalk it up to you not paying attention in DARE class it is an INTERVIEW where answers should make some sort of sense. I'd like to know what the Strange Boys get that no one else in the big state of Texas does. They get the truth? The truth that is a secret even though you tell everyone about it. Or something. Yeah. Cosmic. Silver Apples, how obscure.

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What I find most interesting about many of his responses is the way he talks about musical influences and drawing from the past."

I think that's what most bands talk about Stoner ranger. Musical influences usually involve drawing from your past. You shoulda asked them questions like do they really demand a two hundred dollar guarantee when they play and why? Now that's interesting questioning.

2:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or why does the girl play with one finger but you can't hear the keyboard? Let me ask the questions next time.

2:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SR, 12:43 just summed up the ego comments.

3:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude, they're sucking up to the strange boys because the strange boys just got signed and shit. product align for synergy consumers!

vietnam my ass.

3:01 PM  
Anonymous justin said...

black angels are signed to light in the attic records.

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone with an address can have their own label big whoop.

3:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rick Allen would not be impressed by those keyboarding skills.

3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW! THE Light in the Attic?

3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like how every fucking retard that uses the word DRONE thinks they are the only person using the word DRONE.

3:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how could dressing up in cute mod clothes and living it up in a 2 thousand $$"artist"loft in southside on lamar, sipping drinks and smoozing it up be the TRUTH?maybe my ideal of truth is just warped,but it's funny
how shallow all of you strange boys
lovers are.

3:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The black boys and strange angels need to form a commune called TRUTH where all the right influences will be preached and holy Newcombe shall be worshipped.
Amen.

3:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I dont really know many other Dallas bands."

...and how

bunch of ass kissing ego-stroking bullshit artists

3:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who signed the strange boys?

3:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah bands who stay in their own little bubble and never talk to anyone when they play somewhere WOULDN'T know any other bands existed. Let's tour across America playing with people we'll never talk to or remember their names. If you tape record us or take our pictures we MAY ask for your email address though.

3:51 PM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

Most of this just sounds like sour grapes and jealousy to me. You know why? Because no one has provided the name of even one band from Dallas proper that is as good or better than the Strange Boys (I can think of like,two), and no one has really said ANYTHING about The Black Angels' MUSIC.

Not liking the band is one thing, and again, completely subjective. Not liking their influences or differing in opinions about Texas music or the origins of psych rock is also valid, and I think an interesting discussion could be had on that subject.

But I think you are taking his comments on influences and my reaction to them a little personally. You're reading into these comments some kind of attack on people, and if you read the interview as a whole, you'll find that he's not trying to attack anyone. He does use the word "right" to describe certain influences, but come the fuck on... do you honestly believe that anyone thinks this shit is objective?

And would you blame a band of like five or six people for asking for $200 to drive up from Austin and do a show? I bet they spend a third of that on gas alone, and another large part of it on food, etc. That leaves what, 20 bucks for each person at best? Man, what a bunch of assholes! How dare they ask for 20 bucks!

I'm done with this thread. You can disagree but chill the fuck out! Maybe two or three of the negative comments on here have some value, but the rest make you sound like fucking babies.

4:11 PM  
Anonymous justin said...

SR,

i don't think the comments spewing hatred have much to do with what is said. anyone can listen to them and immediately discern their influences. they wear them on their sleeves.

the content of his answers aren't at issue but the attitude and presentation of those answers. they are easily read as arrogant, antagonistic, even extremely egotistical. they could also be read (as they seem to be by you) as well informed and thought out opinions.

we aren't reading INTO questions and comments. we are reading questions and comments. if you don't like people interpreting how they are being said (not WHAT is said, that is right here on the page), perhaps a better forum for an interview would be an audio interview. just a suggestion. typing something out can make it incredibly subjective.

and i wasn't pointing out the value of their label, simply that they already have one. although i'm happy someone bothered to reissue the os mutantes catalog.

who did the strange boys sign to?

4:24 PM  
Anonymous mc said...

stoney ... he does come across pretty ignorant and prickly. You must admit.

But, I will repeat, if you love Spacemen 3 you will love this band!!!

The only thing 60s is this hippy-dippy attitude.

This is minimalist fuzzed-out drug rock, and all it entails, in a pure way. Not in a shitty retro way. Best to push mute on the lava lamp and just listen.

4:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cliff notes..

4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stoned Ranger, you're the one sounding like a little baby defending a guys answers. Let answers and interviews stand on their own without referee. You let all kinds of horrible stuff get posted on here but someone calls out someone you like and you get all "hey now, hey now!" Be a good interviewer, moderater, blogger and let the piece stand on its own and let people read into it what they're going to. Thats all you can do. You always look silly when you start defending some weak cause.

4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RICK ALLEN?!?!?
HAHA HA HA HA that shit is fucking gold!

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many Dallas bands are signed so really what does that mean anyways?

You get the key to the city???

No it means now you have to work 50 times harder to please the label or you get dropped unless the label you signed to sucks.

Unless your willing to do the grud work! And your label does more than give you a pat on the back, you are just like every other washed up band in this town. No label support and no where to go!

It's a reality check I know, but getting signed is a small step to a bigger mess.

4:37 PM  
Anonymous T said...

It seems like The Strange Boys are getting a bit of the ol' guilt by association to me. They have always come across as super nice guys, offstage at least.
I have only seen the Black Angels once at the first wall of sound and they just kinda blended in with everyone else. Most sounded like Denton circa 1995 anyway.

4:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stonedranger it's official you are a jackass

4:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think as a whole the dallas/denton area would have better bands if people actually supported the bands, there is so much negativity in this town it's amazing, there is never any response to all the positive things that happen for bands in this town (i.e. the paper chase on kill rock stars, centromatic touring all over the world with amazing bands, [dary] has had 2 records released in japan this year, black tie dynasty is getting huge amounts of radio play, etc etc etc etc etc etc) if you don't like a band fine, just stop all the bitching, just don't do go.

4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A label is the equivalent of a loan company. They loan you the money to put your record out and then it's up to you to tour around in a sweaty van crammed with all your bandmates, eating greasy fast food, playing for peanuts and trying to hustle your records so you can pay the label/loan company back and stay in good standing to make more records which will mean more sweaty van trips until you all hate each other and fight and break up. How a Band lives 101.

4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too true...

4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone thinks being a musician is chicks, drug, and money well all I have to say is!


YOUR MOTHER FUCKING RIGHT!!

IM LIVING PROOF!!!! :)

YEEE HAAA!

4:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

where's our it list? shit.

5:21 PM  
Anonymous Robert e. litist said...

Is 2:52 Rick Allen?

5:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right on, 2:32.

5:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Justin.

This dude also probably didn't realize that that he was saying "the strange boys are the only good band in Texas" to a blog full of anonymous attention hungry bitter locals. Exaggerating your friends in the press to get them some more attention is pretty standard and shouldn't really be taken that seriously to the point where an argument breaks out over "the best band dallas."

Rediculous.



Everyone already knows there aren't any good bands in Dallas anyway.

7:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

some guys will act like they like the strange boys in order to get into a chick's pants who likes them, then go on a blog and dis them to be cool. just saying i have heard o things like that happening.

8:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like the strange boys, but unconcsious collective, Flipside, Silk Stocking, The Angleus, Laptop Deathmatch, The Dreamtigers and Ghostcar are all doing impressive things as well. There is plenty of good shit in Dallas. Stuff you guys regularly endorse.

2:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 2:44 tried to slip Black Tie Dynasty into his comment... anyone else catch that?

10:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also haven't been "blown away" by any Austin bands and I've seen the Black angels THREE times.

11:35 AM  
Anonymous adub said...

people are still posting on this?

12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your mom is still posting on this.

3:12 PM  
Blogger tystamp said...

something's wrong here. 13th floor elevators are NOT the beginning of pychedelic rock. a guy from austin tried to tell me that shit before. so i guess some people in austin jabber on to each other about how where they live is the birth of psychedelic rock. whatever man if makes you feel better about living in texas then go ahead and tell yourself whatever you like but the psychedelic rock sound already existed with bands like the holy modal rounders, the fugs, the grateful dead, donovan, and pink floyd or the beatles!? i think the holy modal rounders even used the word psychedelic or psychedelia in '64. the earliest pscyhedelic rock album i've heard is "Rubber Soul" 1965. but i don't really believe in 'firsts' anyway that's just some things that i can think of. psychedelic music has been going on a looong time even before this i'm sure.

the interview does sound a bit cheap. i have to say i've lost some respect for them from some of the stuff said.

i saw the black angels i think either a year ago or two i can't remember but i liked it live. but i think i liked it because they were playing music that communicated bands that i liked and i didn't think many people or the general music 'scene' was being influenced by so it was cool to hear it. but anything beyond that they aren't that exciting or great.
i'll agree with earlier poster that notes from underground are holding the torch for texas psychedelia as far as i know. but i don't. i haven't heard hardly any local or texas music probably on the grand scale of it all. hope to catch the good ones when they're around.

BLACK ANGELS>FALSE.
DEATH TO FALSE METAL ERRRR PSYCHEDELIA

6:17 PM  
Blogger tystamp said...

oh yeah. gina probst is better than the strange boys.

6:19 PM  
Anonymous once and fer all said...

chill out on the black angels guys. not everyone is good at interviews. it's a strange thing to be interviewed and most of the time you end up sounding like an idiot. sometimes you sound like a fucking huge idiot. their show was pretty cool, though.

2:47 AM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

See, Ty's comment is exactly the kind of thing thats nice to see on here. I would have loved to talk about the origins of psychedelic rock, and maybe discuss what it means to wear your influences on your sleeves like the Angels do, and why it is or isn't a bad thing. it seems like there are a lot of people on here that know a lot about music, and it seems like we all waste a shitload of time when we could be having interesting debates and discussions.

10:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

leave douche alone. thank you.
no it should'nt RYAN!!!!!!!
the strange girls?!?!?!?!?! who gives a toss!!! i'm the burning bush, i'm the burning fire, I'M the bleeding volcano!!!!!!
ZAK: ha, i'm no musician... o.k. stop there, exit quietly to the left.
NO KURDT DID'NT do that........
please place DRONE down. please leave now.
grow up guys, the road is becoming more antiquated by the day...

2:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'd have to disagree. It could be argued that psychedelic music probably crawled forth out of the sounds and songs of ancient rituals and chanting from such places as Tibet, India, etc. It can also be argued that free jazz was an early form of psychedelic music as well. There is no ONE defining spot that this music was created in."


....ok, seriously.

SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP!

leave the "where music came from" debate at home. yes, psychedelic rock and roll music comes from blues, country, and perhaps jazz music... which comes from all sorts of other music, which was stolen from some other music in some other country which was stolen by the people who came to that country which is now being played as this style of music.

fuck off. Psychedelic rock and roll didn't come from fucking tibet!
maybe it's informed by music from all sorts of indigenous peoples, but we're not doing a discertation here so quit showing out.

5:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it is believed by many that the strange boys have signed a deal w/ downtown recordings which is distributed by atlantic (and hosts a number of other bands of note... Art Brut, Gnarles Barkley, Eagles of Death Metal, Cold War Kids)

...i think the band is aware that signing a contract doesn't garantee anything, but being on an indie lable that just happens to get it's distribution from Atlantic records certaintly does up the promotions budget doesn't it?

and i'd say that downtown/atlantic has done a few things right w/ Gnarles Barkley (a band i'm not too big on, but only b/c i haven't really bothered to listen)... all i DO know about them is that they have been promoted pretty intelegently. so THATS what the strange boys can look forward to, if the rumors are true. i have, thus far, found no validation.

..and being on atlantic has a bit more advantages than Light in The Attic. (kindof like black tie dynasty being on Idol records (isn't that right?) vs getting a deal w/ some actual promotional perks.

also, i don't think that the strange boys have much interest in signing any piece of paper that doesn't say exactly what they want it to say (or near exact).

6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the grateful dead, "


...the psychedelic sounds of the 13th floor elevators was around during the same time when the dead/jefferson airplane/big brother thing was happening in San Francisco. The reason many people believe that the Elevators were the first band to produce "psychedelic" music was because they were one of the first (if not THE first) bands to use the term Psychedlic to promote their music (hence, their first album title was "the psychedlic sounds of..."... the first album to mention "psychedlic" on it's cover)

...it's kindof like how some people say "punk" came from the name of a fanzine, while some say it was used by Lenny Kaye (sp?) on the nuggets comp.... any way you slice it, each little group thought they were the first, but since none of us were there to take notes, we won't really know who or what was the first person to coin a phrase, or turn it into their own thing... whatever.

i think you CAN credit the 13th floor elevators for being one of the first bands to bring the term to light (use it to describe a genre of music that was gaining popularity) and for being right along side of the san fransisco scene where the use of "psychedelics" became a spoken-about rebellion in music (the beatles were taking tons of drugs, but if you asked them... untill later on... they were squeaky cleen. Roky Ericson was a little less sheepish about his use of substances)

6:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

free tibet!

11:37 PM  
Blogger psychedelic vulture said...

This Anonymous fella has a lot of opinions,and even writes about himself in the third person.
Who is s/he hiding from?
I listen to The Black Angels, I've never heard of any of these other bands apart from BJM.
But then again I'm from England.

3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I play with The Black Angels and have influences and that range in and outside what Christian mentioned. I think it is great that everyone is so cocerned for what the way he feels. To say that The Strange Boys are the best band it Dallas is his opinion. If I think Bush is a moron, I will say that when asked what I think of him. Some conservative types may disagree. Obviously there are tons of good bands every where. I listen to any thing from Dr.Octagon to Cavedweller. If you think our music is shit and we are assholes, your opinion. I was just amazed to see how many people commented on this interview. I dont always see eye to eye with him on everything, but I truly know that he believes in what we are doing and a blogger is going to stop him from changing the world for the better through music. That is the "truth". I'm glad all of you have opinions that differ from ours. That's how we evolve.


alex maas

5:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

on the "the right influences"

damn he is just saying what he believes.
There is no right way for anything but how are you going to prove him wrong one way or another. I don't feel that he was being arrogant on the "only band in texas that is good is the Strange Boys". narrow minded? yes, or just plain honest. I have met the only guy once before and found him to be a nice guy amongst the rock and roll scene. Honestly I would like to hear more bands pulling from the influences these guys are. Maybe he will read these comments and like his band mate said evolve and be less narrow minded. He does seem like a very driven individual though with a vision. Wether it is narrow or broad at least he has a vision.

6:01 PM  

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