Wednesday, August 08, 2007

It List: Wednesday 9/8/07

Not a whole lot going on today as far as I can see, but I will take this opportunity to:

1. Tell you to vote in the We Shot J.R. awards. We're only half way through the voting period, and we've already received many many many more votes than we would have expected for the whole thing. So that is good. And despite the bickering around here, I still think we have the most knowledgeable base of readers/voters in the area, which makes these awards meaningful to me. Go vote.

2. Tell you that some of our anon friends are famous: there are about five fully quoted anon comments in the lead story of this week's Observer. Great job talking shit you guys! I'd post a link but there isn't one.

3. Tell you about Strawberry Field's Short Attention Span Theater at Hailey's tonight:

"It is 90's night tonight at Short Attention Span Theater and to celebrate we will be showing clips from the greatest of all 90's TV Shows, The State.These are original copies with the ORIGINAL killer 90's music. None of this "I-tunes we couldn't get the the music rights" crap. Chauncey and Chad will be spinning the greatest of all 90s music. While the music is going, watch a pop up video presentation of Pulp Fiction. OMG LIKE TOTALLY!"


Anonymous Anonymous said...



3:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


bring lube

4:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, is Gutterth promotong that shit or something?

4:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


It's going to be the most ruff and rollicked time the Metroplex has had since CAPTAIN AHAB (@ SHQ THIS FRYDAY) rolled through last year with Books on Tape.


4:03 PM  
Blogger guTTerTh said...

No. Captn Ahab scares Gutterth.
Sexual assaults and dancing and all of that sex. Whaa.

4:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...




4:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh man The State is funny

And I am stoked about CAPTAIN AHAB THYS FRYDAY

4:49 PM  
Blogger Denton Music Reviewer said...

i kind of liked books on tape better, but ahab is worth it.

4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That Malise band that opened the show was pretty cool! I hear the almost set the speakers on fire, literally.

5:31 PM  
Blogger Lindsay said...

Here's te text of the Observer article:

"Ay, Anonymous"

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cliff notes got rolled

5:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that will never get old.

6:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yr a bitch, lindsay!

6:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who's the twat that's so obsessed with who's promoting what on here? There's always some banal comment about that. YAWN!

6:57 PM  
Blogger DTC said...

to ensure no ones getting rick rolled, heres the article

and it would seem the observer is doing their own investigation into what happened. that should be interesting.

8:00 PM  
Anonymous Parade of Flesh said...

record/vinyl/magazine/book/art rack...

8:04 PM  
Blogger doorbells said...

God, that was the worst-written article in the entire fucking world. Leave it to the Observer to make everything surface-deep and loaded with pop culture references (comparing blog comments to Kurt Cobain's guitar and Vanilla Sky: um, seriously?)

And the comments barely had anything to do with the subject; they just consisted of random insults, which happens all the damn time anywhere anyway. Maybe a subtle WeShotJR attack in response to all your not-so-subtle Observer attacks?

They should have just done the article about the superior Rick Rolling that goes on here.

8:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They should have just written about She-Dick again. Man, those bitches are brilliant.

8:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lodge 4-qt. Camp Dutch Oven...

9:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Woah, it's already September 8? Where did August go?

10:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the message behind the Observer article is a pretty important one, however, I wish they didn't sell so many ads for shemale massage.

11:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its nice to see joanna widner trying to appear relevant by reporting about us anons. i wonder who alerted her to these blog posts, because she sure as hell doesn't give two shits about anything else that we talk about on here, or that SR and DL post about.

the pot shot she takes at this blog is even more poorly written than most of the deranged anon comments she references. kurt cobain's guitar? gay cruises? give me a fuckin' break. Joanna: quit trying to analyze the credibility of the only resource in DFWd music worth a glance and maybe instead get your ass to an actual show this weekend. not at the house of blues.

at least pretend you care about what your job is about.

oh and fuck you.

11:54 PM  
Blogger Sam Machkovech said...

Thoughts are up at Dd.

3:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is so funny that everyone on here is like a pathetic black hole, it doesnt matter who says what, or what is said when, or really anything regarding this whole fiasco -- its like you eat everything and throw it back up in some disgusting regurgitated form.

there is nothing of worth said on these post -- everyone seems to be bitching about bitching which was was bitched about because of bitching because of matthew.

i wonder which of these anons are 30 year old unmarried men jerking off to gay porn every hour between making lame comments holding absolutely no substance whatsoever, and which anons are 15 year old juggalos smoking meth with the little money they have, leaning over someone elses computer laughing at themselves -- I really can't tell.

I realise this comment is just as pointless as any other on here, i could keep my mouth shut. but why? when surrounded by pathetic failed musicians who get hostile and shit thier pants when something new they werent expecting catches them off guard. I know im rambling. but then again so is everyone on here...what day are we on now? its been a week of this bullshit right? something like that.

Does it ever end or will the battle of anger and ego continue to bounce off other angers and egos until wsjr is forced to delete the blog because everyone begins demanding MATAS news. haha. this is growing pathetic.

3:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dude yer so right

4:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's so bad about Gay Pronz?

Also, what's so bad about not owning a computer?

gays r kool
class war class war

7:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's so bad about Gay Pronz?

Also, what's so bad about not owning a computer?

gays r kool
class war class war

7:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Totally worth saying twice.

7:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck the observer. instead of taking criticism and doing something to change their music section to something relevant they write an even lamer article than SR and DL have been writing about the whole MATAS thing, taking shit to an even LOWER level. fucking retarded. music zines writing about music blogs. what about the music?

9:09 AM  
Anonymous Justin said...

3:43 - just because people bitch doesn't mean it's unfounded... even on here. i know precendent says otherwise, but hear me out.

joanna widner hasn't taken an interest in this music scene since she got here. i've played, with probably 3 or 4 exceptions, every week since she began her tenure and haven't met her yet. i'm not touting myself or the bands i play with as important or integral to our "scene" here, but you'd think with the frequency and variety in which i play and attend shows, she'd have come up at least once.

her holier than thou attitude she displayed in her article displays contempt for this blog and our music community as a whole, however flawed and voracious the format appears at times. i think the people shouting outrage over this article are upset with the hipocracy displayed by her apparent lack of interest in anything that hasn't bought ad space in her paper. there's complaint about "the scene" but no real attempt at addressing it.

the sad reality of the situation is that she's in a position to affect change in a way that anonymous bloggers (and especially anonymous commentors) can't. scott from record hop wrote a pretty wicked comment in response to the domas about how he doesn't even read the observer anymore. i can second that sentiment, i practically cheered from my desk reading it. if she wants something done, she should get out and do it, or else there won't be a dfwd scene for her to write about anymore.

9:37 AM  
Blogger amandacobra said...

i would like to thank her for finding one thing that we can all agree on. which is that the observer's music coverage is pathetic. group hug.

what annoys me about the whole thing is her little rant recently about the "dallas scene" being stuck in the 90s. if that's true or not is up for debate but she made this observation based upon seeing what she called a "local supergroup" comprised of members of daryl and black tie dynasty. {pause for laughter}

so she reads we shot jr for blog fights and anon hostility but when it comes to shows and checking out the local talent, she skips over the it list apparently. besides there's an all midget kiss cover band playing this week and that banal pop-culture-references-flled review isn't gonna write itself.

pros: we shot jr, with all anon hostility and internet cat fights aside, actually covers interesting stuff most of the time.

cons: i can't slide a copy of we shot jr under my cat when he's vomiting up a hairball.

9:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Justin is right. That rag has a lot of potential to get people into good music, or at least cover more facets of the scene that exist here in dDfw.

The problem though is that if people like us, who really care about music, have stopped reading the music section. Do you think the less obsessed are reading it? They could probably remove it from the paper, and no one would notice.

10:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Observer has sadly become irrelevant. Why did every always complain about Sam?

But hey, I finally got quoted:
"Matthew... you're a fucking joke."
I'm famous!

10:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the thing that Scott wrote on the Observer blog that Justin mentioned. This was in response to bitchiness about the DOMAs---

"Yeah, everybody bitches about whoever the editor is, sure. So accept it like it's supposed to be that way? What a load. People were bitching about Sam because he focused his wrath on the shitfest that was Deep Ellum and it turns out he was right to take on that crumbling Establishment. This ain't about Sam, though.

Ever since the new lady took over, haven't had a chance to meet her yet since she doesn't have a map to Denton, the music section that we all grew up with in a paper that we love has been a shell of itself. We take sad note every week that a show at Hailey's is listed as Rubber Gloves, a show at Rubber Gloves is listed as Secret Headquarters. It happens more than you guys seem to notice. Then there's the Roky Erickson mess, where a hoot night suddenly turned into a Double Wide gig by the man himself, revealing that your writers don't even read the ads in the Observer. Hell, the show listings a couple of weeks back were from TWO years ago, listing gigs from clubs that burned to the ground ages ago! I know that it can be hard to stay on top of things when you get busy writing your third straight weekly article about the same band or an all-midget Pink Floyd cover band is playing the House of Blues, but come on. Just act like you care. There's so much going on. Fair to Midland might actually get huge, and they are given a small blurb. A hard working band tours their ass off and releases a national album, no in depth story about what it all means. Ghosthustler plays a handful of gigs and starts getting national press, and no story about young dudes in the blog age and how they are gonna handle the hype. There's a ton of shit you guys are missing, and a ton of shit that you DO notice only to get wrong. Maybe the department focus has changed, maybe the corporate mission statement has been tightened up, but at least act like you enjoy the gig and the scoop. Merrit and Noah? We cool.

I have a great history with the Observer, as a long time reader, and having written a couple of pretty shitty articles for Ms. Hepola. The rage directed at her was from some really bad bands, so, awesome.

My music projects (Record Hop and Spitfire Tumbleweeds) and fake club (SHQ) enjoyed some good press from Sam. The rage directed at him was from the dusty confines of local cock rock hell, so, fine.

But all of the new rage I've been hearing from some people, people that DO stuff around here, some of the very best bands in Texas, it is centered on the ever-increasing flippant attitude about easy to find facts and the complete unwillingness to just dig a little deeper. WSJR does a great job documenting what's happening around here. Seems like one of the last stories Sam wrote was about the growing Blog Culture of Dallas, and just like a lot of stuff he wrote about, he saw the bigger picture.

We all used to rush to Dan's Bar on Wednesdays to pick up the new Observer and see what was going on. I can't believe how little time it took for y'all to go from the standard bearer to complete dinosaurs, the fourth best resource. Sure, I'm grumpy about it, but I am not the only one. And I hate it, because I used to love you guys.

But, hey, it's cool... Everybody always bitches about the Music Editor, right?"

10:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God damn, That Widener hack may have finally found a way to get us all together.

10:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why would the observer cover any of the worthwhile shows that weshotjr does?

if the observer covered amazing shows at jnj's, shq, and random houses, they'd lose their advertising. it's all about money and money is what is going to keep the observer afloat (and worthless).

this blog is the best music go-to in the dDFW because it doesn't require money to stay afloat. hopefully joanna widner's piece will get more people on this blog and more people out to shows.

10:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right on, 10:29.

10:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Preach it

10:45 AM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

yes, Scott's comment about the DOMAs is amazing. It was exciting to read on the observer blog, and the way he ended it was priceless and professional.

10:50 AM  
Blogger Anon said...

Does the Observer even care about getting it right? I mean do they actually really care? If they can't get a show location right, are the big shots up there even aware of just how horrible the music section is?

Do they need to care? With 70% of the paper drowning in advertising, I'm sure their only concern is maintaining that ad percentage.

10:58 AM  
Blogger jonofdeath said...

I used to read the Fort Worth Weekly. I wonder what they've been up to lately.

11:09 AM  
Blogger hansford said...

"I used to read the Fort Worth Weekly. I wonder what they've been up to lately."

don't get your hopes up.

11:14 AM  
Blogger Defensive Listening said...

Re: FW Weekly

Holy shit, I'll take Anthony Mariani over Jonanna Widner any day of the week.

11:31 AM  
Blogger hansford said...


11:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm starting to think the MATAS thing was a stunt.

And he's still playing New Sabbath.

Also, this is the second time since the mess that he's posted a new song. One which was about the WSJR mess.

Both new songs were vaugely dark featuring repetitve psuedo-ominous trite crap about "I'll drink your blood" and "I knew when I woke up it would be a bad day".

So after all, my personal opinion has run the gamut. But now I'm just gonna go with, "blah". People do "fake dark freak folk" a lot better than Matthew and the J&J's Jamboree.

12:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's Wednesday 9/8/07 and MATAS is getting 6 mil. So much for accuracy.

1:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So far the concensus seems to be that the folks writing about music for free are doing way better than the "professionals." Not that I'm saying that the massive amounts of dollars that the absorber writers are corrupting them, I'm sure they don't really make shit. It's really the passion and genuine interest of SR and crew that lead them to start this thing.

1:45 PM  
Anonymous delmore said...

The Dallas Observer; New From Jamaica!

1:58 PM  
Blogger Danny Z said...



2:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

read quick instead.

today there was an interview with chris tucker


3:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aww. I love The State!! I'm so sad I missed 90's Night. I'm not a dedicated enough reader of WSJR, I guess.

4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I intern for the Weekly. It's much better than The Observer, which is why I picked it. The editor-in-chief is a Pullitzer winner. And Mariani knows his shit.

4:31 PM  
Blogger jonofdeath said...

I have to say, I picked up a Weekly and I wasn't that impressed. The big show they talked about this week is in Waco. Do they even get the Fort Worth! Weekly in Waco?
Also, there were only two album reviews and one DVD review. One album was a rerelease of Chester and Lester. The other was some country band from here. That's okay. I like to see the local stuff, even if I'm not into it. Because for some reason the Observer only reviews nationally released albums that had reviews written about them a month ago.
And the DVD review was of an underground R&B label from Detroit.
I'm not really complaining about the writing of the the reviews or even the content. I actually found them pretty interesting and they made me think, "Hmm. I should check those things out." However, they aren't local and they probably won't affect the progress of modern music. (Then again, maybe the next big thing is going to be resurection of 50's R&B).
However, I did read the one thing that Anthony Mariani wrote about the current exhibit at the Modern and it made me laugh.
Does he usually write stuff only about art? Or does he write stuff about everything?

6:11 PM  
Anonymous mc said...

I used to write for the Observer.

I used to read the Observer.


6:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, that should fix things, MC. You'll show them. They'll realize just how much the section has declined without your contributions and beg you to come back. Maybe they'll offer you Jonanna's job.

6:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the observer IS completely irrelevant and nothing was different when sam was editor. as a fucking music editor you ought to be out at shows seeing bands. everything that's going on in denton is and always has been the best thing in the metroplex. the d.o. is merely a spread of ads with a few articles thrown in. it's a money maker, not a music/arts paper.
and sam, didn't you move? why don't you go torture seattle with your lack of knowledge and good taste. why are you still even doing bid d little d?

6:54 PM  
Anonymous mc said...

Hey anon 6:53 ... these things both occurred quietly half a year ago. It was a personal decision. This is the first time I've felt a need to even point it out on here.

And the last time I even considered applying for the gig was when Hepola replaced Crain. Any thoughts of reconsidering would be more along the lines of public service.

7:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Observer has ALWAYS been out of touch. Zac Crain was no better or worse than the current editor. Now, The Met, they were better. At least they paid attention to what was going on in Lil' D. R.I.P.

8:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Y'know, I've bitched about the Observer, so I'm not speaking from a high horse but I'm getting bored of hearing about it (especially from people from Denton, where I live).
It's a Dallas paper - it will never satisfy Denton people and it won't always write about your boyfriend's band that played some house party somewhere. (OMG! That was the best show EVER!)
Anyway, so I'm stopping talking about it and I'm sick of hearing people whine about it.

Other things I'm sick of:

Guys wearing those tennis headbands.
Ironic t-shirts.
Those "cabbie" hats.
Star tattoos on the inner wrist.
Tattoos in general.
Girl pants on guys.
19 yr. olds driving a Lexus.
Red Bull and vodka.
Converse as some sort of declaration of hipness.
The fact that when Gorilla vs. Bear writes about some new indie band or artist it just so happens to be a hot female.
Girls taking pictures of themselves with camera phones.
Well dressed Asians.
Drinking cheap beer as some sort of declaration of hipness.
The new band that's gonna "make it."
New Media Digital Age We're the New Generation nonsense.
People that used to be Goth but are now something else.
Anything "New."

9:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your "I'm sick of this stuff" list is SOOOOO last year.

10:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen, anon 9:38. I'm with ya on all of those, except the goth one. Isn't clinging to goth life late into adulthood more pathetic than changing?
Goth ladies are hot at any age, I guess, but if you're a dude and it's been a few years since you've been carded, time to put away the dog collar.

6:19 PM  

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