Monday, October 15, 2007

SHQ Closed Due to Vandalism


According to a post from Scott Porter on Denton Rock City, Secret Headquarters is being forced to shut their doors permanently, effective immediately, due to an act of vandalism that occurred late Saturday night. We have no details on who might have done it, but there was speculation that some of the materials used by the vandals came from SHQ itself. We'll give you more details when we get them, or maybe someone in the know can explain further in the comments. I'm not sure I understand exactly why the SHQ, as a tenant, is being blamed by their landlords for vandalism on the property, but I bet we'll find out soon enough.





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281 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only SHQ materials that were used is the trophy from what I understand. You can see it there on the cross. You'll know who did it. The SHQ guys already have good information.

11:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They leave their trashcans out back. The cross seems to have been made from construction materials from the lot behind SHQ. The 5 gallon bucket of paint is not from SHQ from what I hear. The trophy was on the soundbooth, easily stealable on the way out the door.

11:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The new landlord is a crazy person. I've heard plenty about the guy to know that.

11:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The landlord was unhappy with the "element" that hangs out there on his property and it turns out he was right. Friends of SHQ did this. Their timing is mind-blowing.
You'll know soon enough. People are already whispering the names, and it going to freak you out.

12:00 PM  
Blogger cody said...

This happened after 3am at least. I locked up at 2:30 and all was well (and nobody was in sight), and that white stuff is roofing latex.. have no idea where it came from.
We have a good idea of who was there when it went down, a few people that were around just before it did have helped a great deal in figuring it out.
The big deal w/the landlord has a lot to do w/the cross. There's a church in the other end of our building, and I'm sure they don't share the same sense of "humor" that our vandals did.
Plus, it's obvious it's someone who knows us, and to an unreasonable landlord that's just as good as us doing it ourselves.
When you're not a legitimate bar but people bring their own drink in, & when you're not formally a venue and bands play, you walk a very thin line.
Sometimes it takes one person being an ass to bring it down for everyone else.

Thanks for all of the support, everyone. Wish we could have gone out on a better (or at least a more spectacularly rediculous) note.

12:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i bet whoever did it feels like ten lbs of ass in 5 pound bag

12:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

please start naming names. please start naming names. there is absolutely NO point in protecting these people.

12:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Proof. There is a witness who ain't talking. Something about letting the guilty parties out themselves. The witness and the vandals are running out of time.

12:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if it is someone you know... may I suggest pressing charges?
Fuck it dudes.

12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that witness is kicked out of the scene!

12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

goddammit.

12:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it Matthew and the Arrogant Sea?

Man, they're my favorite band.
(Although I've yet to hear their music.)

12:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a lot of trashing for one person to do. It's almost like it took a creature with 8 arms. an octopus. Maybe a... squid?

1:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate Denton.

now.

1:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think whoever did this hates Denton too - ya'll should hang out.

1:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who the fuck was it? People have a right to know who to watch out for. That witness can suck it. Coward.

1:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The butler did it...

1:31 PM  
Anonymous Fred said...

This is absolutely awful. I hope they catch those fuckers.

1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

1:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a lot of trashing for one person to do. It's almost like it took a creature with 8 arms. an octopus. Maybe a... squid?

--1:00pm

oh fuckin no way....

1:37 PM  
Blogger Scarlett said...

If a donation bucket/jar/pocket is set up, I want to donate money to the boys of SHQ. Sarah Reddington has played there a few times, and it was always a wonderful place to play, and it was a wonderful place to hang out. I definitely didn't want to see something like this happen to a place like SHQ. (or really anywhere for that matter.)

Keep this updated. I want to help!

1:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and atticus remains unscathed

1:41 PM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

WHAT SHITHEADS. I can't believe someone would do that to a DIY. No one who's done so much for their music scene deserves this.

1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have now heard through the grape vine that Ty Stamp, Samantha Moss, Gregor Bailey, and Sean from Silk Stocking are involved. I hope this is not true, but I do not doubt it for one second.

2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck.

2:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IZ THAT PIZZA AND BEER

LOLOLOLL

SUX ABOUT THA PLACE BUT U KNOW
WUTEVR
FIGURE SUMTHIN ELSE OUT

2:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If 2:03 is right, that is beyond fucked up.

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They'll never admit it.

2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ty and Gregor?!

OH BIG FUCKING SURPRISE.

denton stars strike again.

2:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SAM MOSS AND SHAWN? THAT IS A BIG FUCKING SURPRISE.

2:20 PM  
Blogger David said...

Jesus, don't name names until it's official.

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its official.

2:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

take justice into our own hands.

2:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would seriously get ALL the facts before jumping to conclusions. I know everyone wants someone to lash out at and soon, but I have a really hard time believing Sam could be involved in that or the others for that matter.

2:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, you must not have ever seen Sam past midnight.

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sam wouldn't do this.

ty and gregor would.

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sam was with them. I have now heard from 4 witnesses that they were at SHQ at around 3:00 in the morning. Acting like drunken fools. If you know these people at all, none of this is a surprise.

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

check DRC

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd like to add that I know Sam very well and am not believing this until I have ALL the facts. I know everyone is out for blood, but take a rational step back and get the facts and talk to people in person before making conclusions based on what you read on message boards, which should go without saying, but...

2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:41 makes sam sound like a gremlin

2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who had access to roofing latex? Who would have such a thing and why? Where did it come from?

2:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who has roofing latex on their shoes?

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"as far as I remember" "I was really drunk though".

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

someone should have sex with their butts.

2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'll make sex to their butts

2:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let's all make sex to the holy man's butt, then to butts of Ty, Sam, Gregor, and Sean.

2:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This shit is totally fucked. The SHQ guys didn't deserve this. Especially in the totally fucked up way it went down. Wow.

3:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was Jonanna Widner and Ghosthustler

3:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny because this site is called we shot jr and the last 4 or 5 hours have been like the who shot jr episode of dallas. I've never seen so much high drama circling around Denton.

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And that sucks, because SHQ was the least drama thing we had going on.

3:13 PM  
Blogger FlappersInNylons said...

This is a tragedy. Who ever did this is a childish, selfish, douche bag.

3:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

man my bad day just got worse.

shq is dead. long live shq.

3:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Samantha is involved. It suits her downward spiral. She can redeem herself by turning in the guilty culprits. My two cents.

3:26 PM  
Blogger Clint Butler said...

Oh cool. This is great. i have nothing but hate for you selfish fucks who did this. clean up your mess and move away.

non-anon hate.

3:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so, sam is kicked out of the scene?

3:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 3:26!-Were you there as well? How are you privy to such info.? What's up gossip mill? I love Sam and she is on anything but a downward spiral. Do you even know what she's been up to for that matter? Hmm...
Sorry some people were super lame to SHQ, that is a tragedy and I hope they fess up soon because this lynch mob is getting lame.

3:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An apology is in order. All involved need to come forward and apoligize and maybe everyone won't hate them forever for doing this. The guys at SHQ are getting fucked over for something they didn't do. It's not fair and the responsible parties need to show themselves and apoligize.

3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, I do know what she has been up to. I know alot. Thank you for asking. Don't take it out on me that your friend stays out all night doing stupid shit.

3:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey 3:50--were you there? Cause your friend sucks.

3:54 PM  
Blogger cody said...

Yes, please refrain from naming names, unless you're naming your own and claiming responsibility.
I'm certain that part of the family is responsible, but I'm not positive on which part, and I don't intend to hurt any of my friends in the process of finding out.

The best thing the guilty person(s) can do right now is go clean up that fucking mess before I have to.

3:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:46 and 3:50

S.A.

3:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:57?

4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saying shitty things on the internets be all fun when you can do it anonymously!

4:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was Amanda Von Cobra and the lead singer from the Liars cover band "the Pliars" (they're dating now) and they were coming fromjavascript:void(0)
Publish Your Comment the free clinic to work their day job as construction workers and got drunk and had it filmed for cheaters.

4:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CONFESS, AND PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR BUTT SEXED-UP

4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'll confess if it means getting fucked in the ass

4:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

someone trying to relive their cocaine addled youth? grow up.

4:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ty Stamp. We'll start with him.

4:28 PM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

Ok, I'll be deleting any unfounded accusations on here starting now. Lets wait and see what happens before we go tossing names around.

4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

open letter to joanna widner:


don't write an article about shq. the end.
-anonymous.

4:29 PM  
Blogger cody said...

4:29:

best thing I've heard all day.

But I expect to see a story this week on how Hailey's is closing it's doors because someone planted a croquet mallet by thier back bar.

Man, those guys are so up on the scene.

4:38 PM  
Blogger cody said...

or is it "its". or "their"?

great, now the inaccurate story about the wrong thing happening at the wrong place will be based on my typing errors.

4:40 PM  
Anonymous posthustler said...

you're not supposed to feed them beer after midnight!

4:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think it was the guys from Monkeyshyne!!!

4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sayin defensive shit on the internets be all fun when you can do it anonymously!

4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT'S NOT LIKE I WAS TRYIONG TO GET THE PLACE SHUT DOWN I WAS FUCKING AROUND

4:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'LL CLEAN IT UP WITH MY TEARS OF REGRET GUYS

4:59 PM  
Blogger matthew said...

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4:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

come clean

5:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and then we'll use your tears of regret to lubricate our BUTT-SEX OF REVENGE!

5:01 PM  
Blogger amandacobra said...

I have a feeling that we will be seeing a lot of this:

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This post has been removed by the author.

4:59 PM

on this thread.

5:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

or...

This post has been removed by the blog administrator

5:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and i think that is a bunch of bullshit

fuck it if its someone you think is your friend

cause they are not

5:20 PM  
Anonymous am said...

What a tragedy. SHQ gave much to our fair town.

5:31 PM  
Blogger cody said...

just a final word, an obituary on the blog I do for denton music:

http://nofold.beloblog.com/

5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can we make sex on their butts yet?

5:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard it was the guys in Nouns Group...and if this post gets erased we all know why.

6:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Culture jamming is rad!

6:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the last cool things in Denton and it gets shit all over.

Way to go assholes!

6:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The culture jammers/ corporate 40s/ santa rampagers have never been known to stand up for their own. They turned their heads when one of their own was raped. Why would they come out and cliam responsibility for this.

their identity is a joke. an excuse for being an alcoholic loser without any real convictions.

6:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whoa. i knew nothing about a rape.

denton needs to stop protecting their own and start fessin' up.

6:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

from 5ish years ago.

6:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh come on. I know you guys have been seriously discussing closing down shq for at least a month. admittedly this sucks and its a bad way to go out, but puhlease. this is just the straw that broke the camels back, dont be a "victim" of random drunken ridiculousness, and heap all of the blame of the difficulty of keeping a diy space going in denton onto the backs of whatever morons did this. you all shot jr, by not going to the shows enough, not contributing enough, not making it work. if the community were sincerely behind SHQ, they would have enough money and motivation to keep going, or find a new spot. the truth is these places come and go. its sad, but if you care, go open another one. or have shows at your house. or rent venues to have shows.

wah. someone drunkenly built a cross and made a mess. dont make it into a bigger deal than it is. shit like this happens all the time. yes, someone should clean that shit up. infact, if it was such a vital part of the community all of you fucking whiners should go up there and clean it up. together.

not your responsibility? then shut the fuck up. you dont deserve to have a DIY venue to call home.

6:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

btw. 6:36 was NOT a tirade against SHQ people. i love those guys. its a tirade against the assholes who only care about what they had after it goes away.

6:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what the hell are you talking about?

6:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who the hell are you?

6:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I would have turned the cross upside down and left some outrageous porn magazines all over."

Orenthal James (OJ) Simpson

6:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

p.s. 6:36 PM did it

6:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:36 did not do it, does not live in denton, and is sorry that it happened. but 6:36 is annoyed by whiners, blamers, drama queens, cops, drunks, anonymous posters and the general apathy of your entire generation. believe me, if shq werent having trouble paying their bills, and were getting some reward for their hard work besides the "adulation" of their peers, not that they are asking for it...

shq would not be closing down because someone made a mess in the alley one time.

think about it.

but it is easier to take something like this and blame a few individuals for somehow magically fucking up everything than to take a long hard look at yourselves and your level of community engagement.

now, if you are reading this, and in the past week spent an hour doing something to help out at some kind of grassroots organization in your community, i apologize and concede that it is not you that i am speaking to. however, if you havent done anything in the past week, you are entitled to NOTHING but a big fuck you from corporate america, and you DESERVE to live your life in economic slavery, getting ass raped by budweiser, the house of blues and ticketmaster.

7:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:22 did it

7:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

roofing latex mite actually be found where?

7:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck you, 6:36. they had a few more months, a few more shows for us to enjoy. seriously, fuck you. i love that place.

7:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude. It's all about respect. It's about being selfish. Was SHQ doing well? Sometimes. Does that excuse friends putting that straw on the camels back when the camel was so close to being strong? No.

7:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:33, obviously. what happened sucks, but it isnt the root of the problem. all i am is saying is that if the camel WERE stronger, if the community were more involved and more generous, this straw wouldnt have mattered a bit. a few hours for a group of people to clean up, maybe a day, an apology to the landlord and a promise to look into and deal with the situation? and then easy sailing. people do stupid shit when they are drunk. they always have, they always will. they puke, piss, break things, make messes, yell at people, get into fights, it is a part of running a venue, just like weather, asshole cops, freeloaders, etc. but to blame the failure of a community spcae on the actions of one individual is naive.

7:32 - fuck me? why? did i hit a nerve? when was the last time you donated anything to the place? or helped out? maybe you have, let me know, tell me i am wrong. I love that place too. if i lived in denton i would have gone regularly. fuck you.

7:54 PM  
Anonymous meg boner said...

fuck. that's lame. I was just telling a friend here how much I miss SHQ.

ughhhh

8:36 PM  
Anonymous will said...

homeboy confessed on DRC. Thoughts?

9:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am really glad he confessed and is taking responsibility. shq should concede that the shutdown is not entirely the fault of this one occurance, and should not use him as a scapegoat. people do stupid shit when they are drunk.(i don't even know him).

our community needs to stick together, work harder, confess to our shortcomings, and sacrifice more. not point fingers, accuse, whine, pout, and deny responsibility. its the only way we will be able to grow stronger so that little shit doesnt send us into a tizzy.

9:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe it was The Yearbook.

9:23 PM  
Anonymous nazi hero said...

can't we all just get along?

9:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prepare to have sex made on your butt.

9:41 PM  
Anonymous lucky pierre said...

mkay

9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who is streisand1?

10:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Am I the only one who shares the sentiment, "Why bother caring?"

10:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

would u want an individual that trashes yer place hanging out with you? i think not.

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'll still hang out with him.

11:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if somebody was drunk at my house, knocked a bucket of paint off of the roof, made a half assed wooden cross, seemed really sorry, admitted it, cleaned up the mess, and replaced anything that had been damaged, i would consider them a better friend and respect them even more than before it happened.

yes.

12:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry dudes, but that's some pretty weak ass "vandalism". It's a spilled bucket of paint for chrissakes. I guess the wooden cross was what really set it off tho... bet the landlord had a good freakout about the occultists who had infiltrated his property.

Hell, send that cunt Jonanna Widener a story about how satanists ruined SHQ, it'll be our little joke.

12:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, how come no one contested this? where's the DIY fightin spirit stuff SHQ was famous for? come on, the post mortem obit stuff seemed almost too readily offered. apology's too pat and everyone's 'cool' now. hello streisand1, take the rap, & now here's your key to denton. pleez. something + rotten + denmark. and these are all people i've considered friends. the 'vandalism,' though shitty to clean up, seems not enough to elicit immediate closing, slumlord denton asshole landlords and all. guess i just don't believe the hype.

2:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

michael stipe in traffic

2:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear People of Denton,
I think it would be good for all of ya'll to reflect on the last 24 hours and take lesson from it. Take lessons of human nature and of your own natures. Rationality and logic holds no sway here, nor does kindness or humility. I think back to the witchhunts that burned countless women, the wolves that nailed Jesus, and the consul that pressed Socrates to drink the hemlock. It is mass hysteria and those all too eager to look to others for their own misfortune. It is hyperbole and a lack of prudence. Anyhow, I just want us to learn from history so we can move forward for once.

Much love (and I mean it),
Irene

3:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nicely put, irene, i especially hope that cody will consider more carefully in the future before impulsively making public announcements of an inflammatory nature... even on places like DRC.

4:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you pour a shit ton of money into some diy place and have this shit happen to you... let's see how you react.

let it be. it's over.

6:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i seriously doubt the SHQ people would be as forgiving if the perpetrator was a complete stranger, or even a casual acquaintance. birds of a feather flock together.

8:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

will said...

homeboy confessed on DRC. Thoughts?

9:03 PM

confessed where?
link please!

8:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Irene: do you spend an outrageous amount of time at self cauldiling groups such as drink and think? because I do not think those words mean what you think they mean..

You have just spit more fluff, and bs then should be allowed..

I think I will go watch tv now; Frankly Britney Spears on cnn has more thought, and relevance then your post.

8:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually she's a professor of ethics and also taught logic.

dumbass. you're an idiot and belong on a stupid fucking couch watching cnn and getting great meaning out of britney spears getting shittier and shittier and more fucking stupid.

9:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that is if it's the same irene that i think it is.

9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the witness(sam)should have called her friends(cody and scott)instead of letting them be publically upset and confused. alco-fucking-holics. i wonder if she went home and hit will over it.

9:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every time Im telling secrets
I remember how it used to be
And I realized how much I miss you
And I realize how it feels to be free

Now I see Im up to no good (no, no, no)
And I wanna start again
Cant remember when I felt good (baby)
No I cant remember when

No, only in my dreams
As real as it may seem
It was only in my dreams

Couldnt see how much I missed you (now I do)
Couldnt see how much it meant
Now I see my world come tumbling down
(tumbling down my world)
Now I see the road is bent

If I only once could hold you (no, no, no)
And remember how it used to be
If only I could scold you
And forget how it feels to be free

No, no, no, no, only in my dreams
As real as it may seem
It was only in my dreams

No, no, no, no, only in my dreams
As real as it may seem
It was only in my dreams

No, no, no, only in my dreams
As real as it may seem
It was only in my dreams

9:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perspective: SHQ is closing for the same reason SHQ was gonna close anyways: lack of control over stupid-ass shit.

9:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this was a House Of Tinnitus HIT! they had to put SHQ out of commission. 8th continent...watch out. House Of Tinnitus is a STRONG camel. with fangs and shit.

9:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:06 AM

those who can.. do..

those who can't teach..

those who really can't.. are professional students under the auspice of being a professor..

i would explain more.. but i have stuff to do..

10:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have huge balls. When anonymous.

10:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So 3 people stood around while one guy ruined SHQ for everyone?

I kinda feel they're as much to blame as anyone.

Alcohol doesn't excuse anything.

I wish it had been the guy from The Yearbook.

10:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It looks like more than one person made that mess, Shawn is too sweet, of course he would take the fall.

10:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi. Scott P. here.

Yes, we have been struggling. Yeah, we could have closed at any moment during the last couple of months. But fuck that. We always found ways to get by. A lot of you helped and we tried to make it worth your effort. and make no mistake, the new plan was going to be awesome. We had started paying rent on time. We had met with the lanlord at length, restructuring and getting legal on paper with the city... And then... THE GREAT PAINT SPLASH OF 2007!!!! In hindsight, the cross was a great touch. Nice anf folk-art looking. Sadly, our right wing landlord saw it as an attack on 'Merica and the Jesus.

After enjoying the company of many friends last night, a lot of the folks who offered the same ideas as you guys, stuff we hadn't considered in the passion and intensity of the last couple of days, we realize that our closing in that location really has nothing to do with a couple of drunken goofs. You're right about that. For christ's sake, we encouraged that type of shit and on a good night, probably would have helped nail the cross together. Better the drunks loiter in our dark alley than take to the streets.

As far as the sudden closing, and all the talk about the landlord...
It had gotten to the point where people were afraid of him. When he saw the "religious" nature of the admittedly weak vandalism... He FLIPPED. He threatened Cody. He kept calling us at our jobs, harrassing us about the religious nature of the shit. He kept snooping around, unlawly entering the building, the ONLY reason this shit went public was because HE found the paint spill and called the cops! So Cody gets dragged up there, threatened over two seperate occasions, gets accused of being on drugs, accused of being in a "cult"... We literally called his wife and threatened legal action if he didn't relax.
It was all so sudden and intense when the man called. Versus what probably woulda happened if we had found it first... Take a drag from a smoke. "Huh. How about that." Kick the wood back into the pile.

So... speculate all you want.
This has all ended in such goofy fucking circumstances... Yeah, we could have done better. Yeah, maybe people shouldn't have climbed the roof, maybe our new landlord dude could have been less insane, there are plenty of maybes... This is all so blown out of proportion. We weren't trying to cure cancer. We rented an office, opened a door, and threw beer parties. And then we got busted. It was a fun run. You guys are awesome. Now it's all just embarrassing. Whooptyfuckingdoo. We had a shitty PA and a little time. None of it was worth the last couple of days. People are mad at us and shit. That sucks. We were just trying to throw a party.
We took the "vandalism" personally, because we were personally attacked by the ex-nam landlord in strange fashions. You bet we were pissed. But we were never gonna press charges. Woke up on a Sunday, and that fucker was bring 'Nam home to us. You bet we freaked out. Jesus, we've been flying under the radar for a year and a half, stresses out but smiling. Admittedly, we are a little frazzled. I hope you can forgive us if this closing doesn't suit your needs. And that is only half-sarcastic.

All in all, fuck it. I'm out of the fake club business. It was a blast for a while. But like someone pointed out, this shit happens all the time. A tiny little fart in the cosmos. Blah. Blah. Blah.

msp

10:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, and, for old time's sake... Bring on the hate.

msp

10:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey scott, go enjoy your life. use the time you are about to gain to write a song, dance a jig, fuck, smoke some pot, cook a good meal, play with your dog--GO ENJOY LIFE!

10:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey 10:59

Why don't you go enjoy your life? Not so nice directed at you is it? Nah nah nah

11:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually i was being serious! and i will go enjoy my life--thank you! as someone who was a part of a fake club at one time, i know how it feels to get out of it--its amazing how much time you gain! how free you feel!

i was honestly being positive. its weird how the internet makes people so suspicious. so be it!!

11:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll admit it. 10:59 is my mom. And OF COURSE she's drunk again.

msp

11:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was just being retarded, MSP's mom. I love you.

11:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

man, this is why i dont post over here. im 10:59 and i was just trying to be nice. geez.

11:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i love 10:59 too!

11:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still just kidding 10:59. Hugs and Kisses

11:15 AM  
Blogger cody said...

I agree w/what scott said.
As for this one:

Anonymous said...
nicely put, irene, i especially hope that cody will consider more carefully in the future before impulsively making public announcements of an inflammatory nature... even on places like DRC.

4:25 AM


My public announcement was on a message board full of my friends, knowing full well at that point exactly who was involved/witnessed and hoping they would get the message that what happened wasn't cool.

I do respect shawn for coming forward in the shit-storm, and I've lost respect for others who still claim no knowledge of the parts he didn't claim and still happened. Some have even said they weren't there when Shawn mentioned they were.
Whatever. It's not some nancy drew mystery or whatever. Somebody just broke some of my shit & made a mess I have to clean up. Just like every damn weekend, just a bigger mess & more broken shit.

My anger isn't even about having to shut down. It's about having to spend my sunday the way it was spent, having to do what I did, and after all of that hearing nothing but a bunch of "not me".

At the end of the day I owned a problem that nobody else wouldn, and after all is said & done I'm the one that suffers beyond the "Man, that sucks".

I don't need someone to blame to know that isn't right. And I don't need someone hating themselves for me to get over it.

I just plan to get on with my fucking life.

11:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the craziest thing here is that it wasn't sloan

12:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHOA. That is SO fucking true!

12:05 PM  
Anonymous ed said...

Anyone wanna try to start a washateria punk club with me? How fucking sweet would that be? Laundry, some old Arcade games / a pool table or two, and shows that don't suck. Maybe a condom machine somewhere?

Jesus- I'm brilliant.

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have lost respect for Sam Moss. If she asks me, I will tell her.

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scott and cody, nicely stated. having a psycho landlord is a much better explanation than "SHQ Closed Due to Vandalism"

i am sorry for your loss.

I love you guys and deeply appreciate all you have invested in denton.

12:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really wish we could have done better. This is all just so fucked up.

Please don't judge anybody.
People were just having a good time.

msp

12:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bar of soap already exists genius, you didn't invent it!

12:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scott. dude. you guys did great. don't beat yourself up... the only reason everyone got so bloodthirsty is because they care about you guys as people, because they know the sacrifices you have made. a few guys can't bear the weight of the whole world, nor should you have to. it is everyones responsibility to pitch in equally. obviously the landlord thing was reaching a boiling point, and it was simply time.

12:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:23
How could she ask you if you are anon? Just wondering about that.

1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sam walked away from the whole thing as it was happening. I was witness.

puppies and cats

1:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:07
IRL, duh. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS WHO I AM. BUT WHEN SHE AND I TALK ABOUT IT I WILL TELL HER SHE PROBABLY NEEDS TO GROW UP. STAYING OUT TIL 6AM WITH 3 GUYS ISNT CUTE WHEN YOU ARE OVER 25, MARRIED, AND UNEMPLOYED. HER "REAL" FRIENDS SHOULD HELP HER AND START BEING HONEST WITH HER. SHE OBVIOUSLY HAS A PROBLEM.

1:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sam knew who did it and then lied about the whole situation on dentonrockcity. She lives across the street from Scott. She could have fixed this all before anyone else in the world knew about it. Instead, she lied. she didn't come forward. Ty didn't come forward. The first day in a year he didn't go to that message board. Then as as soon as shawn took the fall, he runs out of hiding, "Screw you guys!"

The SHQ guys may be licking their wounds and trying to repair this whole mess, but do not lose focus on the fact that all of the names that were proposed early on were true. And Shawn may be the only one fessing up, but that whole crew was selfish, chickenshit, defensive, and lying. They Don't deserve to be hung but they do suck a little more than they used to. And Scott and Cody and that whole group will forgive them and they are already taking the blame on themselves. Because they are stand up guys. Love them or hate them, they wanted the truth and four people knew it. And those four people let it turn from a drinking accident to vandalism and at the end of the day they did not give a fuck and still don't.

1:16 PM  
Anonymous ed said...

Does bar of soap have a condom machine??? I think not!

Still brilliant!

1:20 PM  
Anonymous ed said...

p.s. C'mon people.. lighten up a little.

1:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

but, this bar of soap would be in lil d

1:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:07 go back to your puritan society. It's ok if a guy was hanging with 3 girls.

STFU you are ignorant and i'm sure Sam would love to get rid of your judgemental ass for a friend.

1:29 PM  
Anonymous tystamp said...

fuck you. i didn't do anything. ok. is that cool? and i fucking got called at work by shane english about this whole shit. i talked to scott when he messaged me the same time i went to go check this chickenshit board. i answered him. and no i'm not going to out my friends sorry that's not my fucking responsibility. and i'm not going to come on this shit and start saying anything with all this shit flinging that was going on. fuck you.

1:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Totally agree with 1:07...irresponsible, immature, reckless behavior.

I sympathize w/ Cody and Scott. You work hard on something you really believe in--put your heart/soul/body/money into it--and then your "friends" wreck it overnight. This shouldn't have happened. It didn't have to happen. And if some people had gone home, got drunk and reckless on their own property, it wouldn't have happened. That, my friends, is the absolute, rock-bottom line here.

What's worse, it sounds like the perps are angry because people are taking them to task for their behavior. A lot of folks these days seem to believe that anything goes and that there shouldn't be any bad consequences for bad behavior. Why should Scott & Cody--and all of the true friends of SHQ--have to pay the price?

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

1:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wish I would have gone to secret headquarters more.

1:39 PM  
Anonymous tystamp said...

you guys still wanna fucking kiss shawn's ass and 'help' sam but greg and i are still fucking scum. yeah glad to know everyone is still a fucking asshole around here. even when you were fucking dead wrong about your shitty accusations. i'm not anybody's fucking keeper. i didn't let anything happen. shit just happens and i'm not a fucking disciplinary or any shit like that. not a fucking snitch either. get the fuck over it. i think scott is a cool fucking dude. some of you vindictive pricks need to get a life.

1:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:14, she's also in grad school, something you forgot to mention I guess.

1:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry Ty, I see your point. I miss the positive things that were going on before all this happened and you were a part of that positiveness.

1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sorry Ty, I see your point. I miss the positive things that were going on before all this happened and you were a part of that positiveness."

?

Ha!

1:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 1:42--so being in grad school makes it all okay? Y'all have funny ideas about what makes a person "cool"...

1:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i wonder if shq would have let the rock lottery use their spot all weekend, losing income, if they had known that one of the events organizers was going to trash the place the next weekend?

1:48 PM  
Blogger cody said...

you guys should lay the fuck off of sam & ty.

it's done, we'll move on.

You people should be more worried about all of the shitty music I'm going to be making with my free time.

1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being in grad school is a lot different from just being unemployed, but I guess that just didn't fit the vibe of your statement.

1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the event organizers didn't trash the place. Learn to keep up.

1:54 PM  
Anonymous tystamp said...

you it's cool, you're the same people that didn't like me before this and you don't like me now. big fucking deal. sorry.

1:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes she did.

1:57 PM  
Anonymous tystamp said...

edit:
didn't mean to say "you it's cool" meant to say "you know it's cool"

1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO, you need to learn to pay attention.

1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok i'll fix it.

i wonder if shq would have let the rock lottery use their spot all weekend, losing income, if they had known that one of the events organizers was going to stand idly by while her loser friends trashed the place the next weekend? And then get caught lying about it.

2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Main Entry: ac·com·plice

one who intentionally and voluntarily participates with another in a crime by encouraging or assisting in the commission of the crime or by failing to prevent it though under a duty to do so

Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think part of the reason people are freaking out on Sam is because she has been so full of "scene love" lately. She even called people out on the messageboard for not praising Ty and his WSJR review. Its hard when you act like that and then fuck up. People notice, you know?

I agree with 1:07. Someone should talk to her before something really bad happens to her (like a car wreck, violence, rape, you know--all the shit that can happen when you are running around really drunk and weigh all of 120 lbs). I dont think they were being puritanical. She obviously loses control. You hope for your friends that they will get their shit together because you don't want them to turn into losers. And, no offense, but those actions sound a bit like a loser. I highly doubt its the kind of woman she wants to be.

And none of this is any of my business! I'm not even really close to her or anything. Just an outside observation.

2:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a judgmental prick too stupid to know when to shut the fuck up and I've made a lotta posts........

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Anon who called me a cunt,

Hey, wow. I hesitate to fall down to your level and return the needless misogyny/totally weird hatred/immature name-calling, but I would just like to point out that that's the most cowardly fucking thing I've ever seen. You want to call me a cunt, you post your name.
Fine, I get it--Denton hates me. Denton thinks I hate Denton. I actually don't at all, and btw, if I'm so irrelevant, why should you care one way or the other what I think about Denton?
If you do care, I'll tell ya this: Being called a cunt, etc., doesn't exactly make me wanna come up there or make contact with people in Denton's music scene. If you want me to give more/different coverage to Denton, cool, email me and let's go have a beer and you can show me what i'm missing. Seriously...
If you don't care, then at least have the balls to not post as anon when calling me disgusting names. That's crossing a fucking line.

Jonanna

I'm sorry about what happened to SHQ.

Jonanna

2:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This has brought out the worst in me. I'm sorry. To everyone.

2:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Denton doesn't think you are a cunt. Denton is just lonely.

2:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3 things SHQ Denton could learn from 1919 FW:

1. Trash the place before you open, that way nobody knows what's art and what's vandalism.

2. Open shop in crack-ville, not a block from town-square.

3. If the community doesn't support you, you're screwed before you've even begun.

2:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the true story...of seven strangers...picked to blog in a house...work together, and have their lives watched...to find out what happens when people stop being polite...and start getting real...WE SHOT JR WORLD

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:07 and 2:06 sound like the taliban. get fucking real.
being over 25 and married means you cant go out at night anymore? i guess she needs to be accompanied by her husband? fuck off.
she's an adult and can figure shit out for herself. quit trying to scare women away from hanging out. people like you guys are what's wrong with denton, if you even live here.

2:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STUPID INTERNET
ACTING LIKE A CHILD WHEN YOU ARE OVER 25 AND MARRIED IS SAD. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GENDER.
ITS OK TO WORRY ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS WHEN THEY ARE MAKING BAD CHOICES.

2:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There doesn't seem to be too much real worrying on here. Instead, there seems to be a bunch of nosy people who like someone to look down upon to make them feel better about their own shortcomings. It's just easier to trash someone when the nastiness is covered up with fake concern, I guess.

2:56 PM  
Blogger stonedranger said...

Jonanna-

1. I thought posting in the comments sections of this blog was pointless, boring, and completely beneath you. Didn't one of your TWO articles on MATAS last month basically say so? And shouldn't you be busy writing one of the amazingly intelligent think pieces that you claim can only be found in the Dallas Observer's music section?

2. I understand the desire to defend yourself against name calling, and I would probably do the same if I were you. But to follow it up with what is basically a threat (don't talk shit about me or I won't come to Denton and give your scene any coverage) is laughable. Do you know how many musicians have privately told me how uneasy they are about getting coverage from the observer over the past year? Quite a few. I'm sure most people on here aren't all that concerned whether you cover their bands or not, and i'm sure most of the dentonites on this site neither hate you nor believe that you hate them. In my experience, most people are indifferent at this point.

Thanks for reading.

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:47

Posting in caps-lock is sad and pathetic. I'll tell you other ways you should be living your life later. You're welcome.

3:12 PM  
Blogger amandacobra said...

hey if we're talking about the observer:

don't worry about someone in denton calling you a bad word and you subsequently not covering bands and shows in denton.

being that you are the DALLAS observer and you have yet to write anything worth the free paper your publication is printed on about anything happening in dallas, i would say that worrying about denton is a little premature.

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is 2:06. I wasn't trying to fake concern. I said I don't even really know her. I was just making an observation. I am not the taliban, but I am a realist. In reality, that kind of behavior can get you into trouble. I have been date raped and experienced alot of hardships from not protecting myself by being drunk and stupid. I was hoping that if she had any real friends on here they might think about talking to her. That's all, but now i feel bad for saying anything. It really is none of my business. So, I am sorry for offending people. I hope Sam figures out what is best for her. I can't imagine being publically humiliated in this way. It totally sucks. I shouldn't have been a part of it.

3:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 3:50 here.

you are all cunts, now get back to work fuckers!

3:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many of you have never done even one act of senseless drunken vandalism? Besides the str8-edge ones, and you've probably done it sober.

3:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just cunt do it

3:56 PM  
Blogger amandacobra said...

i would also like to add as a female AND a huge fan of the word "cunt" that i think my female friends and i say that particular word, on average, four to five times daily.

why ask someone to pass something to you when you can instead say "hey, can you pass me that stapler, cunt?"

4:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

better than a condom machine you can buy the condoms right out of the same vending machine you get your doritoes. how's that for a punk rock club. take notes genius!

4:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's a free cuntry!

4:07 PM  

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