Friday, August 29, 2008


Sheesh.  Thought there would be a lot more going on this weekend with the holiday and everything, but I guess not.  Oh well.  At least I'll be done with this shit early (if we missed anything, let us know). The shows are below, and by the way-- what do you guys think of that new Toadies record, anyway?      


The Party (Zubar): Ahh... the August Zubar Party.  This shit is always so fucking hot that you just forget about what you look like and get trashed.  Or dance.  Or whatever it is you do when you go out.  On a related note, I caught a lot of DJ Nature's outdoor dancehall set at the Loft a few weeks ago, and after spending a few minutes outside listening, I pretty much decided not to go back in again, other than to get more beer.  You'll hear more of that stuff at Nature's weekly Taxi Fare than you will tonight, but shit, you have to respect the guy's diversity.  I think I recognized like three songs the whole time, and that's a very small number considering how hip I am to all the white label shit.  

Stay Cool Swag School Denton Beard Pageant with Mom DJ Set/Young Doc Gooden/Yeah Def/Mount Righteous/In Dot Dat (Rubber Gloves):  Well, Denton Beardos are drawing a line in the sand tonight, much to the chagrin of certain people in Dallas.  This party will feature some sort of beard contest that will probably be won by the guy who appears on all the fliers for this thing.  In addition to the fact that you'll hear very diverse Dj sets this evening, this will also be your chance to catch all the Denton scene sleaze out in full force, and we know how much you enjoy that.  Oh, and everyone's favorite pals Mount Righteous will be playing too!  Maybe they'll inject a little joy into your life you cynical jerks!   

The Spectacle/Bat Castle/Urizen (the Boiler Room): Kind of a weird show that I'm not even sure how I feel about-- The Spectacle is a pretty straight forward metal band that does it's job well enough to possibly be worth checking out.  Bat Castle sounds like a heavy metal cover of the Willy Wonka soundtrack, and its unclear whether it'll be entertaining after more than a few minutes, even though you have to respect the band for being such prog assholes.  Urizen is easily the most interesting band in this line up-- describing themselves as "progressive metal," the group sounds like everything from Gameboy music to mid period Phil Collins solo to Ozzy to any number of 80's Dungeons and Dragons metal groups.  


Nouns Group/The Frenz/Fight Bite (Rubber Gloves): I wonder if Fight Bite's parents finally stopped telling their kids what a waste of time "this music thing" is when they saw them mentioned in USA Today last week.  I know my mom didn't think this website was worth shit until we got a write up in the Fort Worth Star Telegram, and USA Today has WAY more colors and stuff.  I tried to tell her about "blog buzz" and the importance of "time on site" statistics once, but it really didn't help.  

D Town Booty Bounce with Scuba Team Go/Click Claak/DJ Fishrpryce/Damaged Good$/Prince William (Fallout Lounge): Vigilante Productions brings their set to Fallout Lounge, which seems to be turning into quite the little dance spot on the weekends.  Dallas' Scuba Team Go is an accessible electro/hip hop duo that would be better if they didn't like rock music.  Still pretty decent and way better than a lot of similar groups that receive national attention (looking at you, WHY?).  Click Claak's "ghettotech" material reminds me of like Tag Team and Miami Bass stuff mixed with early pop house, and Damaged Good$ might be my favorite local hip hop act.  This is going to be a great show I think.  

G.B.H./Whole Wheat Bread/Krum Bums/Greyskull (The Prophet Bar): I know everyone likes to pretend that they were all into gutterpunk in the mid 90's while they try to forget about that Pennywise CD they used to own, but I actually thought GBH were overrated even back in high school, and I imagine that they haven't aged well.  I'll just listen to Crass if I'm in the mood for this kind of stuff.  Don't hate me.  Of course, these opening bands make GBH sound like The Fall, so, uh, get there late if you're going.  

Zest of Yore/Ume/Record Hop (Hailey's): I just spent a little time listening to Zest of Yore, and they reminded me of a band that I haven't thought about in like 10 years-- Jellyfish.  You can decide for yourself whether or not that's an insult.  I didn't really mean it as one.  Their song "The Rejects" is actually great, and most of their other tracks have that nice late 80's pre grunge college rock kinda feel to them.  



Anonymous Poo said...

That's Remington, and he's a judge.

5:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quit hatin' on WHY?

Beards > Stay Cool Fag School

5:10 PM  
Anonymous Chad said...

As card carrying Denton sleaze and a judge tonight, I can assure you that these beards are gonna have to work it tonight if they want to take home the gold.

5:11 PM  
Anonymous dtc said...

snark snark

5:15 PM  
Anonymous stay cool fag school dot com said...

the first prize in the beard pageant is a SOLID GOLD AXE

5:17 PM  
Anonymous cliff notes said...

my quick opinion which no one cares about
subhumans > crass > gbh > uk subs > citizen fish

5:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my quick opinion
toadies > scuba team go

that's not really saying much though.

5:33 PM  
Anonymous jellyfish smellyfish said...

wow sleeper shit. . . . John Pattituci plasyed bass on one or two of their tracks. They were so LA trying to be San Fran. Rich producers kids. Hmmm, Fleet Foxes?

5:48 PM  
Anonymous joe shmo said...

again with the music

bla bla bla

6:02 PM  
Anonymous the good people of tacos tacos tacos tacos said...

Are you really avoiding posting the Good Records Top 20 just because The Toadies are at the top of the list?

Come on. You don't have to like them, just man the fuck up. It's ok to give props to a band from around here. They also just sold out that deal at Possum Kingdom Lake this weekend.

6:07 PM  
Anonymous michael said...

The Timeline Post is playing tonight (Friday) at the Prophet Bar.

Followed By Static, Dirty Water Disease and Yanari are playing tomorrow night (Saturday) at the Firehouse Art Studios in Fort Worth.

6:34 PM  
Anonymous stonedranger said...

God... give it up, Beavis. We didn't post the Good Records charts because they didn't send them to us this week. We could care less if the Toadies are on them or not.

7:42 PM  
Anonymous butthead said...


8:00 PM  
Anonymous the good people of tacos tacos tacos tacos said...

The real place to be this weekend is Fuel City on Industrial Blvd.

Fuckin' off the chain.

8:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whats fuel city?

8:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why rules

8:56 PM  
Anonymous city baby attacked by rats said...


9:04 PM  
Anonymous streisand said...

the more i've heard the new zest of yore the more it grows on me. Where can i buy it?

meaningless opinion from the gallery.

9:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

art bears>ludus>crass>the ex>dystopia>omega tribe>subhumans>resist and exist>riot/clone>chumbawamba>gbh>skrewdriver>sum 41

10:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

slow weekend.

10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

slowmo froglow. looking at porn while eating corn and fixing your car horn.

12:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

zest of yore is a really fucking great band. stephen gave me a cd at lou's once. christmas cd.

1:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

slowmo froglow. looking at porn while eating corn and fixing your car horn.

1:14 AM  
Anonymous bicurious bystander said...

I saw maybe three beards worth of a contest. what a bunch of gay hippie shit

1:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck you!

1:57 AM  
Anonymous soul power said...

You people have no idea what you're missing at Fuel City.

It is the almighty cross-section of humanity.

Nothing else in the world matters. It's off on some Road Warrior shit...

2:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what the fuck is fuel city bitch? let me know ho? come on man. shit.

2:18 AM  
Anonymous jc said...

jesus christ NOW you motherfuckers want to talk about FUEL CITY?

its a sad blog day. i dont even believe it.

this is like the shit where larry david shows up a day late to the party on purpose.


2:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this is hater central but 2morrow @ barley house is black tie dynasty. Always already(Austin) and grassfight. Free show

3:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


stonedranger help? ??????

3:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no one wants to help out fuck. no one wants to let me know what the fuck is fuel city. so i count on you stoned motherfuckin ranger to fuckin help out and let me know.

yes. la madre.

3:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry David would fucking hate the haters at weshotjr

3:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry David would fucking hate the haters at weshotjr

3:18 AM  
Anonymous fuel for the city said...

Fuel City is fucking amazing. If you've never stood in the parking lot and slammed a handful of picadillo tacos, you haven't lived. I can't imagine life without Fuel City.

It's the only thing that matters. It has everything you will ever need... gas, tacos, beer, hookers, porn, corn, longhorn steers, a clean place to take a dump... I live for Fuel City.

Fucking fuck I love Fuel City.

3:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

u still havent given me info on what the fuck is fuel city bitch. so fuck what you think you motherfucker. i dont fuckin care anymore about your white ass prefrencess you fuckin fucked it up you cunt. fuck you. you cant clarify shit so you fucked. fuck fuel city. big up denton you bitch ass white boy. fuck you and fuck your stupid ass fuel city that you cant address you ho.

3:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck your stupid ass fuel city that you cant address you ho.

3:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry David would fucking hate the haters at weshotjr

3:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry David would fucking hate the haters at weshotjr

3:43 AM  
Anonymous Sweet Satan said...

Fuel City RULES.

3:48 AM  
Anonymous Denton sucks said...

Fuel City is in Dallas, not Denton scum bucket.

3:50 AM  
Anonymous stay cool fag school said...

hater of beards, hater of denton, jealous of denton, resident of dallas, fan of beards, ironic beard owner, ironic beard appreciator, actual beard grower, or denton resident - regardless. rubber gloves was underestimated and overwhelming. DENTON PUT ON FOR ITS CITY

3:51 AM  
Anonymous Bob Seger said...

As long as Dallas has Fuel City, Denton will forever live in its shadow.

Fuel City is going to save indie music forever.

3:51 AM  
Anonymous denton said...

still waiting for dallas to offer anything culturally significant ...

3:56 AM  
Anonymous We Shot Pete Freedman said...


Mike Judge
the DMA
Erykah Badu
Elliott Smith
7-11 Corp.
Rev. Horton Heat
Good Records
Sly Stone
The Dallas Cowboys
Norah Jones
The Magnolia and the Angelka
Ronnie Dawson
Fuel City


Ten Hands
Andy Timmons
Brave Combo
Pops Carter
Pat Boone
The I35 service road

4:22 AM  
Anonymous Hood Nigga said...

Will you motherfuckers quit talking about Fuel City like it just opened this weekend? It's been there forever. If you didn't know about it by now you're an idiot. Everybody in town has already been there. It's not like Fuel City is the Next Big Thing. It's already started to jump the shark. You fuckers totally missed the boat on fucking Fuel City.

Better luck next time.

4:27 AM  
Anonymous I put on for fuel city... said...

motherfucker it takes more than one visit to take it all in. how the fuck are you gonna eat tacos, get gas, buy beer, fuck a hook, ride a steer, take a dip in the pool, eat a cup of hot corn, flirt with the chicks behind the counter, take a giant dump, etc... al in one visit? It's like going to Best Buy or some shit. You ain't gonna reel all that shit in at Fuel City without getting tired.

You gotta plan a whole weekend around that shit.

4:35 AM  
Anonymous Mr. 25/8 said...

Sly Stone was born in Denton...

10:23 AM  
Anonymous primordial ooze said...

i thought the rev was from fort worth?

norah jones is from grapevine.

mike judge? austin, i thought.

10:33 AM  
Anonymous kyle the hipster-bot said...

denton hipsters dont travel that close to the Trinity river to see Fuel city. but if they do i recommend the cup-o-corn with cheese and butter....weshotjr=sectret handshake club of homos and hipsters

11:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let me know when the dallas music scene can get that type of exposure you foos talkin shit about denton. jelous haters the all of you. denton has a population of a little over 109k and dallas has a population of 1.23 million peple and dallas cant generate that kind of attention as a significant music scene but denton can?
you figure it out. you dallas folks need to get the ball rolling on some shit. greenville (dude brah land) is a joke an deep ellum is dead.

1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

isnt dallas known for its tribute bands worldwide? thats pretty significant though, isnt it?

1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GBH had a couple albums way back called
"city baby attacked by rats" and "city babies revenge", which to me represent the essential elements of thier sound. This was when they were somewhat seminal to the UK punk scene. Of course these albums came out in 1982 and 84 so you were in what, grade zero back then? By the mid nineties they were playing generic metalized "punk" rock ,so if thats all you heard by them, i can understand your opinion. Those albums to me are some of the best truly punk albums ever. Also, although i never listen to them anymore, i'm not embarassed about owning any Pennywise cd's either, but i'm not one of these douchebags thinking my taste in music is better than everyone else's.

1:29 PM  
Anonymous milad said...

okay look at Denton hiphop denton has 2 hiphop acts and they suck (fag duece & for rock maybe but Denton will NEVER be able to out-do Dallas Hiphop.

1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lil wil? are you serious milad? you think dallas has a good hip hop scene with lil wil at the helm?

1:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow 11:04. 4 of the links you listed are for the dallas observer and denton live, including articles by jonanna widner and pete freedman. while i agree with you that nobody in dallas has a right to talk shit about denton's music scene, i would say that you need to try a lot harder than that if you're trying to prove a point.

2:04 PM  
Anonymous vegan agenda said...


2:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what is hip hop?

3:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lost in the fog and no way out

3:06 PM  
Anonymous i said...

like vortexas ... what's wrong w/ hip-hop that's not by the book

5:08 PM  
Anonymous roxy1977 said...

wow... what the hell happened here? Was it the Toadies mention that attracted so many slow-mos? I'm certainly not in the comment section much these days... but seriously... lcd guys... lcd. sheesh.

5:13 PM  
Anonymous brent said...

dirty water disease is performing tonight
at the firehouse art studios and gallery
on 4147 meadowbrook dr in ft worth, tx
with yanari and followed by static
as part of "implied silence"

5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City Babies REVENGE!!!

5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

none of these comments make sense

6:41 PM  
Anonymous Fuel City RULES said...

Mike Judge is from Dallas. "Office Space" was shot in Dallas. Rev. Horton Heat is also from Dallas. He started out as the sound man at Theatre Gallery in the mid-80's and has lived in Dallas ever since. Stevie Ray Vaughan was form Dallas, and he sold almost 20 million records.

Norah Jones, along with Erykah Badu, went to the Arts Magnet HIgh School in Dallas. Same goes for Roy Hargrove, a trumpet player who has played with Roots, Badu and D'Angelo, and has released a dozen solo album, one of which one a Grammy Award.

The DOC is from Dallas. No hip-hop artist from Denton has ever released a platinum album. The DOC has. Lil Wil is from Dallas, so is Big Tuck and Fat Pimp. Nemesis sold 700,000 albums, and they were also from Dallas. Play N Skillz, also from Dallas, produced Lil' Wayne last big hit.

Vanilla Ice may suck, but he sold 11 million records. Denton can have him if they want him.

Rigor Mortis is from Dallas. Pantera was from Dallas. Drowning Pool and Damageplan were from Dallas. Between the four of them, that's another 10 million CDs sold.

Should I keep going? Or should I wait for you to come up with even one artist from Denton who has an audience outside North Texas? Here: Brave Combo.

You take it from there...

6:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pantera is from Arlington

7:00 PM  
Anonymous Pantera said...

well they sure as fuck ain't from denton

7:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i thought it was spelled nigger? how about illiteracy??

7:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who cares who is and isn't from dallas. denton is a small town folks, go figure that more famous have come out of Dallas than Denton. more people = more likely to have a few more people who make it. it's logical, get over it.

8:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh, and necessary roughness was filmed at unt.

8:17 PM  
Anonymous redsean said...

i hate even touching this city feud deal because of the overwhelming shitload of triteness, but seriously, robocop and buckaroo bonzai went to UNT.

8:47 PM  
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

robocop filmed in dallas

9:36 PM  
Anonymous chad said...

I feel bad for you suckas that weren't at rubber gloves tonight. Solid entertainment all around.

2:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:04 PM

true. but do u see dallas pulling off that shit? midlake mtv? pop matters? NOPE!!!

point made.

2:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NY YORK TIMES? nope! DALLAS cant do that shit.

2:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you make fun of it . but what can dallas do in terms of exposurE? NADA!!!!!

as lame as you see it. fuck.

3:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so fuck you 12:04 PM . you can provide links at all as to why dallas is better than dallas in terms of music scene. all u can do is talk shit. so ur shits lame. fuck your butt!

3:04 AM  
Anonymous chad said...

Why are you guys so hostile?

3:07 AM  
Anonymous product placement said...

so what has become of that ny times article? anything happen?

i didn't think so.

3:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its just a costume bro. can u dig it?

3:10 AM  
Anonymous Bob Seger said...


3:10 AM  
Anonymous superbligged84 said...

true dat chad. deez fooz need to chill da fuk out and smoke some WEEEEEEEEEEEED.

3:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its just a costume bro. can u dig it?

4:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so what has become of that non ny times article about dallas product placement ? huh? i thought so bitch. talking shit.

4:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what u all got dallas? no one respects you outside of you (in terms of music scene) so shut the fuck up.

4:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


4:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

again with the dallas vs denton? hahaha

okay. well, they started it right? them dallas folks? as usual.

5:07 AM  
Anonymous we shot pete freedman said...

SR, what'd you think of Click Claak live?

5:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was deep in the taco scene long b4 you any of you motherfuckers.

6:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how many more people from austin i got to hear talk shit about dallas? huh? fuck.

6:06 AM  
Anonymous Parade of Flesh dot com said...

Fallout last night was probably the best time i've had there in ages

john, or someone posting as john

9:17 AM  
Anonymous fact czech said...

Office Space was shot in Austin you dolt .... the restaurant in the movie was the Alligaor Grill on South Lamar

10:39 AM  
Anonymous fact czech said...

Office Space was shot in Austin you dolt .... the restaurant in the movie was the Alligator Grill on South Lamar

10:39 AM  
Anonymous fact czech said...

Office Space was shot in Austin you dolt .... the restaurant in the movie was the Alligator Grill on South Lamar

10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dolt dolt dolt

10:40 AM  
Anonymous chad said...

Linklater's Suburbia was filmed right outside of my apt in Austin. Got to see the while thing shot from my bedroom window as a you chap. Parker Posey is fiiiinnnnneeeee.

A Perfect World with Costner and Eastwood was also filmed in Austin. I'm pretty sure Austin will always have the one up when it comes to playing Hollywood lite. Even though DFW gets more indie films screened and shown than in Austin.

11:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Even though DFW gets more indie films screened and shown than in Austin."

Even though Dallas has more indie theatres as a result of having a larger population, I'll wager that the main Alamo Drafthouse, with all the one-offs and special screenings, shows more originals in a given month than all of the Dallas arthouses combined.

Or at least it's pretty close.

11:56 AM  
Anonymous Chad said...

I would take the Drafthouse over Angelika/Magnolia any day when it comes to all those things you listed. Nothing in DFW really comes close. DFW caters to a snootier crown than Austin. So what you lose in Troma screenings and Tarantino festivals, DFW makes up for with foreign, documentary and other high brow stuff coming here first. Sometime even before the rest of the country. If DFW could get a Alamo here life would be complete.

And the arcade next to the Dobie closed down. What a shame.

12:28 PM  
Anonymous newspaperz said...

dallas morning news vs. the NT Daily


12:57 PM  
Anonymous murphy said...

robocop was filmed in dallas bitches!!!

2:25 PM  
Anonymous product placement said...

"Office Space" was filmed in Dallas and Austin, for the record. The opening scene shot in traffic was on LBJ Freeway in Dallas, the restaurants scenes were shot in Austin.

David Byrne's "True Stories" was shot in around Dallas. Wes Anderson's "Bottle Rocket" was shot there, as was "Robocop" and Robert Altman's "Dr. T and the Women". The first two seasons of "Prison Break" were shot in Dallas. Obviously, Oliver Stone's "JFK" and "Born on the Fourth of July" were shot in Dallas too. So was "Talk Radio" with Eric Bogosian.

Many of Richard Linklatter's films, including "Slacker" and "Dazed and Confused" were shot in Austin.

As far as I can tell, only that stupid football movie was shot in Denton.

So, yeah. Dallas and Austin have an actual film production profile, Denton doesn't.

And as far as art house movie theatres, besides two Angelikas and the Magnolia, Dallas also has the Inwood Theatre... all of which blow Alamo Drafthouse out of the water. (The Alamo is cool, but it really doesn't compare to an institution like the Inwood.)

2:45 PM  
Anonymous been there, done that... said...

So funny how people from Denton are proud of an article in the NY Times. Reminds me of when MTV did a report on the scene down in Austin.

Everyone in town that would lead to every band in town getting a record deal, and the only one who ever did was a gimmicky husband-and-wife duo called Timbuk 3. They had one hit called "The Future's So Bright (I Gotta Wear Shades)" and then disappeared forever. All of the really good bands in town at the time (Glass Eye, True Believers, Zeitgeist, Doctor's Mob, etc) were passed on by ever major label in the industry after the MTV story. (Timbuk 3 signed to the now-defunct IRS Records).

So that NY Times article came out six months ago, and how ya doin' Denton? Anybody get signed? Any bands in town leverage that to get gigs out of town? Anything happen at all? Well, the day the article came out, a few people read it, and like every other article that people read in a newspaper, they forgot about it ten minutes later.

A music scene isn't validated by press or TV. It takes actually selling CDs and playing somewhere other than in somebody's living room. As it stands right now, bands from Denton can barely get gigs in Dallas or Fort Worth, much less New York City.

2:59 PM  
Anonymous BIG COD! said...





3:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who gives a shit, who gives a fuck

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Inwood doesn't have the breadth and depth of The Alamo. Forget it. Never has, never will. The Alamo had a No Wave Film Showcase, really obscure documentaries on bands and subjects that are really hard to get ahold of, guest speakers from all over the world. Yeah, the Inwood. Where "Film Buff 101" garbage like "Fight Club" gets shown at midnight so you can watch it with all the Bro Faux Intellectuals laughing way too loud at every shitty part. I'll deal with it, but to say it's better than the Alamo is plain ignorant.

3:18 PM  
Anonymous BIG COD! said...





3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nobody sells cds anymore man, are you like 30 or something?

the denton ny times article was validation that for such a small place it has really great music venues, more good music venues than dallas, ft worth, I would say everywhere in the state besides austin. no one is trying to "get signed" or whatever. shit don't work like that dude. and what bands from denton can't get a gig in fort worth, dallas, or new york? the teenage cool kids have been on like 3 tours and they dont give a fuck

4:05 PM  
Anonymous film threat said...

What the fuck is "breadth" and "depth"? Is that anything like longevity? The Inwood has been there over 40 years. It was the first art theatre in Texas and remains the first choice for any film studio debuting an niche film in Texas.

No disrespect to the Alamo, because it is a great film destination. But to compare it to the Inwood is like saying The Toadies are better than The Pixies.

4:12 PM  
Anonymous Please... said...

NY Times = validation?

They've written dozens of articles about George W. Bush, too.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the article about Denton wasn't even in the Arts section, it was in the travel section.

4:15 PM  
Anonymous Excerpt from NY TImes said...

"Still, unlike Austin, downtown Denton has no liquor stores or a Starbucks, and it sometimes feels more like a suburb of Dallas than a subcultural oasis. It didn’t help things when a developer last year bulldozed much of historic Fry Street, the former epicenter of Denton’s live music scene, to make way for a CVS (a plan since stalled by a permit issue). All that remains today of the Haight-Ashburyesque strip is a mosquito-infested mud pit and a graveyard of frat bars and head shops."

Sounds like validation to me.

4:19 PM  
Anonymous Beat The Press said...

Had a chance to interview the City of Denton the other day.

Here's how it went down.

Me: So, this place is supposed to be the next Austin.
Denton: Yeah, ain't that cool?
Me: Yeah, if you're into glomming onto another town's reputation.
Denton: What's that supposed to mean?
Me: Austin sucks. Why would you want to be like them?
Denton: 'Cause Austin is the live music capitol of the world.
Me: It is? Tell that to London or New York City. Or LA, for that matter.
Denton: Hey we were in the NY Times!
Me: Yeah, they said "Denton feels like a suburb of Dallas"
Denton: We ARE a suburb of Dallas.
Me: So being in the NY Times means you're better than New York City?
Denton: No, it just means we're cool.
Me: Deep Blue Something is from Denton, right?
Denton: Uh, yeah.
Me: And Ten Hands?
Denton: Uh, yeah.
Me: And Andy Timmons?
Denton: Yeah, but we have lots of cool bands, too.
Me: Like Brave Combo?
Denton: Uh, yeah.
Me: And lots of hotshot musicians from Denton are back-up musicians, right?
Denton: Some of them are, yeah.
Me: Like Alainis Morrisette's drummer Blair Sinta?
Denton: Never heard of him.
Me: You haven't? He's from Denton.
Denton: Wow. Didn't know that. Hmmm.
Me: And the drummer for Smashmouth, Mitch Marine.
Denton: Hmmm. Didn't know that either.
Me: Pat Boone is from Denton.
Denton: The old guy?
Me: Yeah, real old.
Denton: Well, The Teenage Cool Kids are from Denton.
Me: Who?
Denton: You don't know who they are?
Me: Uh, no. Dumb band name, though.
Denton: Well, they're neither teenage or cool, but I guess that doesn't matter.
Me: You're right. It doesn't. So what happened to Fry Street?
Denton: It got bulldozed.
Me: How come?
Denton: Because we needed another CVS to be more like Dallas.
Me: I see. What about Fair to Midland? They're great.
Denton: Well, they're from here, but we think they suck.
Me: But people like them. They tour all over the world.
Denton: Yeah, but we need to pretend to be cool, so we say we don't like them.
Me: That's kinda counterintuitive.
Denton: Look, appearing to be cool is all that matters.
Me: I see. So it's really all about keeping up appearances.
Denton: Uh, yeah.
Me: So, you heading to a house party?
Denton: Yeah, it's a mobile home.
Me: Sounds like fun.
Denton: Well, it's not really, but let's say that it is, OK?

4:38 PM  
Anonymous swampass said...

fuckin stupid.

i don't think denton, fort worth or dallas are cool enough on their own. it kinda takes a collective effort to make the metroplex notable in any way. lets just do that, ok?

4:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok so tell me this, what is up with the couches and blankets at inwood now? i just want to watch a movie, not get a disease!

5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

um, riverboat gamblers anyone?

5:42 PM  
Anonymous christian rock said...


virtually every great band that has ever come out of dfw has had its roots in denton one way or the other.

6:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

validation? the fuck you talking about validation? the new york times article (albeit written from a yanks perspective) is an example of whats called "exposure". exposure of the music scene bad or good. the fact is you don't see that shit happening about any other small town in texas do you? regardless if its in the travel section or not. everyone knows the only other area in texas other than austin that has a respectable music scene or shit music scene (whatever scene is) in texas is denton NOT dallas. so thats the fuckin point. what dont you get about that? no ones talking about dallas and music unless they mention some tribute bands you fucks. dallas is renowned around the world for all kinds of shit other than music and art while that little dusty town up i35 called denton is. so deal with it. thats the fuckin point. no one said anything about whether its a good scene or bad scene. the point is - reputation. has dallas been on popmatters,mtv,pitchfork,newyork times (regardless of how mainstream and retarted some of these outlets are) talking about a "music scene". nope. Has dallas been on any reputable mag or outlet talking about its music scene? maybe about its way cool better than houston rap scene? yeh right. lil wil all you got for press now-adays?
thats the point. no ones talking about dallas and music scene in the same breath for some got damn reason thats happening with denton? why so? you figure that shit out.

6:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:33 - at first i wanted to hate you, but you are right.

6:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said... shows tonight?

7:08 PM  
Anonymous hi haters, hi haters said...

There was a piece about Dallas music written by Zac Crain in Spin Magazine right about the same time the NY Times article came out. It didn't mention anything about tribute bands or Lil Wil.

Regardless, press has never translated to anything but awareness. You're "aware" of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, but that doesn't mean that anything they are doing is valid or positive now, does it? Press and validation are two different things. Different writers have different agendas, and different editors have different needs to suit their publications. The underlying subtext to the NY Times piece was to show a subversive arts community in an out-of-the-way place. Even still, they couldn't get away from saying that Denton exists in Dallas' shadow.

And I have to disagree with the poster who said all DFW bands have roots in Denton one way or the other. Perhaps you'd like to point out the Denton "connection" from Pantera, Rigor Mortis, The Toadies, The DOC, Erykah Badu, Course of Empire, The Buck Pets, Drowning Pool, Ben Kweller, Kristy Kruger, Fat Pimp, Southside Reverb, New Bohemians, Old 97's, Charley Pride, Polyphonic Spree, Tripping Daisy, or any of the many other artists who managed to find an international audience without the benefit of a NY Times travel piece.

7:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So funny how people from Denton are proud of an article in the NY Times. Reminds me of when MTV did a report on the scene down in Austin."

actually musicians in denton consider that article a fucking joke because it painted a skewed picture of denton. it made denton out to be this spot that people sit around chewing hay and listening to tim mcgraw or some country bullshit. a proper article would have talked about the different layers of music in the scene. but it is what it is man... a YANKS perspective. that country illustration going to happen because its a matter of perspective.

"So that NY Times article came out six months ago, and how ya doin' Denton? Anybody get signed? Any bands in town leverage that to get gigs out of town? Anything happen at all? Well, the day the article came out, a few people read it, and like every other article that people read in a newspaper, they forgot about it ten minutes later."

you think its about being signed? thats the problem. denton music scene isnt about making it big or trying to get a deal (though im sure some musicians " 'round these parts" probably wouldnt mind being signed) and it never was. its about making music and art and just enjoying that. fuck that rock star perspective bullshit you got going on there. thats how austin got fucked. its pillaged by corporate fat cats now. hows that going? so no thanks keep that shit away from denton. who was going around thinking record labels would be booking rooms at the la quinta (though im sure they can afford better hotels than that) in denton to try and find and sign artists in town as a result of of that ny times travel article? who the hell was thinkin this shit? the jokes on them. were you? people think like this?

"A music scene isn't validated by press or TV. It takes actually selling CDs and playing somewhere other than in somebody's living room. As it stands right now, bands from Denton can barely get gigs in Dallas or Fort Worth, much less New York City."

where do you think scenes start? denton bands having trouble booking spots outside of denton? in dallas i can understand because people would rather hear tribute bands than anything original so i hear. denton bands having trouble booking in austin? what proof you got?

7:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tiger moth is playing their final show at the double wide tonight

7:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There was a piece about Dallas music written by Zac Crain in Spin Magazine right about the same time the NY Times article came out."

Ah, there's one. Thanks what else you got?

7:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


7:38 PM  
Anonymous chad said...

denton Deluxe v.4 comes out on Monday and I think it is an example of what is great about living in Denton.

NY Times piece was for the travel section. If it was in the arts section it would not have been anything like the piece it was. That being a condensed piece of fluff.

7:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

see even chad says it. its still a piece none the less. im sure every other music scene other than denton has always had really reputable coverage from flawless media outlets.

7:48 PM  
Anonymous It's Called "Google" said...

Dallas, Texas Music - 3.2 million items

Denton, Texas Music - 522,000 items

7:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where can i get my hands on a dallas music compilation?

7:51 PM  
Anonymous hi haters, hi haters said...

To 5:29

Getting signed is highly overrated. Usually it doesn't translate to anything.

That said, it does represent the difference between possibly making a living as a musician, or not.

Is anyone from Denton actually making a living playing music, other than guys who went to the music school at UNT and later went on find gigs as sidemen for retarded acts like Alainis Morrisette and Smashmouth?

Just call it like it is - musicians in Denton, for the most part, are doing it as a hobby. If you really wanna argue about who is better at their favorite hobby, fine. But please spare us this idea that what they're doing is "art" or meaningful to anyone outside their geographical sphere of influence.

8:04 PM  
Anonymous Comp City, USA said...

The Dallas Observer did a recent compilation of bands who were nominated for awards this year. There were the numerous "Tales of the Edge" CDs, "Dude, You Rock!", Island Records "The Sound of Deep Ellum", "Static Orange" and about a dozen others.

Use your search engine.

8:06 PM  
Anonymous hobby whores said...

You're right. Most of the Denton bands are doing it as a hobby.

But if given the opportunity to sign with a major like Universal or Interscope, they'd be the first to drop trou and say, "Here, fuck me in the ass, Mr. Talent Scout. Get me the fuck out of here!"

Just ask Fair to Midland or Deep Blue Something.

8:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who said that what they're doing is "art" and just art? The post said "making music and art" . No ones arguing that what they are doing is art. I agree its a hobby for the most part and yes im sure they wouldnt mind being signed to Universal or Interscope but what the other poster failed to get is no one was counting on labels coming out of the woodworks to just sign denton bands because of that funy ny travel article.

8:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dallas Observer compilation? Is that a joke? Anybody putting out a Dallas music compilation through a more DIY means there? Oh and its not in the search engine. I searched those engines!

8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Is anyone from Denton actually making a living playing music,"

Depends on your definition of that is? What constitutes "from Denton" to you? Lets start there.

8:47 PM  
Anonymous fastlassie said...

so much cyberhate...

9:06 PM  
Anonymous no shit said...

none of these people are really "from" denton, anyway. they just live there or go to school there.

9:41 PM  
Anonymous product placement said...

To 6:47

to define "making a living playing music": getting paid money to play or write music, and then using that money to pay your bills.

to define "from denton": musicians who either currently live in denton, or who went to UNT's music school and now earn enough money by playing music to survive without having to supplement that with another job.

so... who from denton is actually a professional musician, or who is doing it as a hobby?

Professional: Brave Combo, Fair to Midland, Midlake, Deathray Davies, Andy Timmons, Earl Harvin, Blair Sinta, Mitch Marine, Gregg Bissonette, Dave Palmer, Mike Daane, Keith Carlock

Hobbyists: Bridges and Blinking Lights, Fight Bite, Vorvadoss, Ella Minnow, RTB2, Vortexas, Transona Five

9:53 PM  
Anonymous you forgot said...

pros: Centromatic, The Paper Chase, Sarah Jaffe

ams: Record Hop, Baptist Generals

10:00 PM  
Anonymous check it said...

10:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what the fuck ! will you quit it with this denton crap.

everyone knows denton is where all the college kids are , bands from denton are just music students joining forces.

bands that aren't from denton play there to reach out to college kids.

if north texas wasn't in denton , denton wouldn't have a music scene.

people move away from denton when they graduate.

bla bla bla

10:47 PM  
Anonymous chad said...

If professional means that you are catering to some sort of institution that is set up to exploit art & artist and amateur means that you are creating interesting and diverse art (fuck you mom it is art!) for personal and community benefit then I want to surround my self with amateurs.

And I want to dance!

10:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More denton vs dallas stuff please. This is fun.

11:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fair To Midland is from Sulphur Springs.

11:16 PM  
Anonymous chad said...

We should all meet at the Pontiac Thunderdome and talk about Zanzibar Snails.

11:19 PM  
Anonymous fastlassie said...

you guys should all fight to the death at medieval times.

joust like real men do...

11:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don henley, meatloaf, norah jones and or sly stone anyone? Lets all meet somewhere and battle it out fistacuffs for who takes home the who is better mantle denton or dallas. I say chad is the denton leader and maybe wanz the dallas leader. Like that old school 1979 Warriors movie. Christopher Largen can document it.

11:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"bands from denton are just music students joining forces"



11:57 PM  
Anonymous Chad said...

but Wanz isn't part of the problem...

11:57 PM  
Anonymous chriso))) said...

If I remember right Static Orange had Denton bands on it. Pretty sure Transona Five isn't from Denton. Tales from the Edge probably had Denton on it too but those things were garbage. I couldn't name a person here in a band who is going to school for music. Is there a link to the Dallas Spin article?

That Frenz show was pretty nice last night, but I couldn't name you a single other Dallas band I'm interested in.

The real issue here though is who would win in a fight between a lion and a bear?

12:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats all dallas has at the moment. Can't find anything else talking about dallas in regards to a music scene.

12:30 AM  
Anonymous chriso))) said...

Thank you.

Denton Dallas whatever.


The NYTimes article was pretty dumb, but there's a Denton band in the Dallas article. HA

12:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well no shit that that NYTimes article is dumb. But its there none the less, talking about Denton NOT Dallas. So go take that shit to the bank and cash it foo.

12:44 AM  
Anonymous kid crotch said...

There were a couple of Denton bands on Static Orange... Centromatic and Slow Ro.

1:20 AM  
Anonymous publicity stunta said...

Dallas press:

1:25 AM  
Anonymous prison mike said...

hey chrisso;)))

here's a Dallas band worth checking out: Jonathan Tyler and Northern Lights

here's another: Mic The Tiger

1:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey look here is another illigitament source for you guys to make fun of

look under "southwest". Dallas isnt on it. I wonder why. So far all dallas has is that Spin article?

1:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:25 PM thats bands from dallas (somewhat) not "music scene". Get it straight. Blend more juice!!!!

1:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Toadies are from fort worth you cunt.

1:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um, i just moved to Denton from Houston and I've always known of Denton having a good music scene and energy not Dallas. People talk (yes shocker) and people talk about Denton in terms of music. I hardly ever hear of Dallas in regards to music. All i hear is people talking down about Dallas because of its plastic and money oriented. Never about a music scene. So im not sure what you Dallas folks are talking about. I mean i know there are a number of bands that have made it into the music mainstream from Dallas but its also known throughout that Dallas doesnt have a current music "scene" or cant sustain one for some reason. I remember people used to be talking about deep ellum and all its action and now its dead. No one talks about dallas in regards to it being cool for music at all. Maybe it used to be like that but not anymore, at least from what I hear from folks in europe, houston and boston.

2:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Annie Clark (born 1982 in Tulsa, Oklahoma..."

"Annie Clark attended the Berklee College of Music and released an EP with fellow students in 2003, entitled Ratsliveonnoevilstar."

2:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The group was founded by Tim DeLaughter and has included 13 to 27 other members. It currently consists of 23 members ranging from vocals to organ to tubular bells. The three original members, DeLaughter, Mark Pirro and Bryan Wakeland were members of the band Tripping Daisy..."

"Tripping Daisy was a rock band that formed in Malakoff, Texas in 1985. "

2:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

North Texas is officially played out.

2:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take that back. North Texas is officially played out BECAUSE of We Shot Jr. How's that for some fuckin' irony, idiots?

2:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCK IT! play this bitch out. who gives a fuck. OBSCENE out.

2:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAH every big city has bands coming out of it getting press and shit. But do small podunk towns have bands coming out of it and making press? VERY rarely. Which makes Denton fuck your butt.

3:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

04/08 - Le Tub gets listed in Hamburger America: One Man's Cross-Country Odyssey to Find the Best Burgers in the Nation
George Motz became obsessed with finding 100 of the best burgers in the country. The book Hamburger America is the result of endless research, many long drives, short flights, belly-busting taste-tests, and thousands of photographs.

4:10 AM  
Anonymous XXX Star Christian Rock said...

"And I have to disagree with the poster who said all DFW bands have roots in Denton one way or the other. Perhaps you'd like to point out the Denton "connection" from Pantera, Rigor Mortis, The Toadies, The DOC, Erykah Badu, Course of Empire, The Buck Pets, Drowning Pool, Ben Kweller, Kristy Kruger, Fat Pimp, Southside Reverb, New Bohemians, Old 97's, Charley Pride, Polyphonic Spree, Tripping Daisy, or any of the many other artists who managed to find an international audience without the benefit of a NY Times travel piece."

hey dumbfuck, learn to read. i virtually all of the great bands, not bands in general.

5:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People in austin say dallas is lame. But they respect Denton. So fuck your butt.

5:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

diamnn 3:34, the first rule about keeping denton cool is don't talk about keeping denton cool!

6:18 AM  
Anonymous my 2 cents....Blixaboy said...

I am from Denton(a 9 year resident) and live in Dallas. Both towns have serious issues. Enough issues to not point fingers at each other. In the big scheme of things both towns really don't support their respective scenes like they used to. Back in the 90's the bigger Denton bands could draw 200 to 300 people out to shows. I don't think there are any Denton bands that can do anything close to that. The bigger Dallas bands could pack out Trees drawing way over 500 folks. There are definately no Dallas bands that can do that now. I do think there is more interesting music going on in both places now than back in the day. That is just evolution. There are fewer people actually getting excited about seeing regional talent and both towns are guilty of this in a big way.

Denton bands used to play Orbit room in Dallas on a regular basis back in the day and Dallas bands would play the Argo in denton fairly often. And both cities would send bands to Austin more often as well as bring Austin bands to town more often. All of this has pretty much stopped. This also sux for everyone.

This whole rivalry is pretty stupid. People need to quit wathcing reality TV. Get off of their asses and go see the local bands they like when they play.

my 2 cents.

8:37 AM  
Anonymous BAD BANDS DRAW said...

WRONG!! there are some SHITTY local bands that are selling out HOB and etc, but no one that comes to this site listens to the radio or lex/terry to know about bands that do well. for example: ODIS. barf, but they did sell out HOB, small room, and now they are on tour. BAD BANDS DRAW. Also, STRIPPER music does well in dallas.

isn't HELLYEAH from DALLAS? they are huge and they suck hairy donkey balls.

the fact that you care which "shity" is cooler is fucking joke. folks please keep arguing on the internerd and don't go out to shows.

9:26 AM  
Anonymous blixaboy said...

I am clearly reffering to bands that have roots in indie, punk and experimental music. I don't think folks that go see HellYeah frequent a blog like this.

10:59 AM  
Anonymous swampass said...

DFW METROPLEX = extra shitty when divided.

sure, i prefer spending time in denton or fort worth, but i won't discount dallas music. plenty of good (and bad)stuff comes from all points in this sprawling metroplex!

everybody wins!

11:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:18 the fact that you think there should be rules to this shit is a fucking joke in of itself. Fail.

11:34 AM  
Anonymous superbligged84 said...

i agree with wanz and i think THIS ARGUMENT IS FUCKING STUPID. i don't wanna read about dallas vs denton. i want to read about music, love or hate. but come on people, this shit don't matter none.

12:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its parody homey. Take it chill. Reflect and let go. Why so serious?

12:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


3:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this arguement is fucking stupid....

i cant believe i even scrolled this far down...denton and dallas are the same fuckin market u assholes....

its called DFW....FUCK!!!!!

3:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

superbligged is a fucking tyte handle

4:14 PM  
Anonymous 4:18 said...

9:34, nevermind. What do I gotta put (sarcastic) behind everything in these threads? I'm out of this argument officially... fight on about wahtever.

4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bowling for soup. denton won't claim them, dallas can't have them.

4:50 PM  
Anonymous 4:18 said...

actually I think I get it... Fight Club isn't a movie anyone under 25 has seen before right? I didn't know it was that old. damn.

(waiting on 'the book is better than the movie' guy to make his comment)

(waiting on someone else's response to that)

I should get paid for fueling these threads.

wait, did I just mention fuel city?

4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

books are for faggots!

4:57 PM  
Anonymous superbligged84 said...

214: thanks, foo. we should get bligged sometime

5:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no books are for faggots, actually.

5:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wanz, please. i for one am really tired of correcting your fucked logic. m'k???


5:59 PM  
Anonymous The Denton Brawler said...

Gustav > Stephanie Tubbs Memorial Service > DNC > RNC >EVERYTHING!

6:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

listen: i don't like record hop, o.k.? but i really fuckin' think that albini would definitely not record an bunch of amateurs. just sayin'


6:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jesus christ, i just can't leave it alone. paper chuds and suck jaffe are pro's in your paltry universe. zeus help us all. (no chuckles)

6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey "google" you wanna parcel that shit (info) you came up with all by yourself with the fuckin' (recent) census data for those two cities? or shall someone wiser fuckin' do it for you? ASS!!!!

6:16 PM  
Anonymous Jesus and Zeus said...

Let Us Butt Fuck.

6:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Rocket Summer?

8:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my dick, your butt..

9:00 PM  
Anonymous soul power said...

Rock Lottery>fantasy football

12:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


5:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this hater guy with his ideas about "corporate art" is clearly voting McCain/Palin

6:03 PM  

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