It List: Thursday 6/28/07
Lost Generation With Wanz and Ineka (Fallout Lounge): Tonight's guest DJ will be Robert Taylor. Wanz will be playing:
New stuff from Tortoise as Bumps, Goose, Von Sudenfed, Thomas Fehlman, The Eternals, Battles and Apparat.
New old stuff from Keith Levene,Can, Richie Hawtin, Pop Group and more.
I was unimpressed by Battles the other night. Those people with their arms crossed that everyone keeps bitching about? Yeah, that was us. Give me a reason to uncross them and I might. Might.
Also, if you are at all familiar with the kind of crowd that used to be into Don Caballero or Storm And Stress, you would know that those people practically wrote the book on crossing their arms at shows. Damn.
80's Night With DJ G (Hailey's): I hate when they play Joe Jackson because Stonedranger will sometimes cry, and I have to console him.
posted by Defensive Listening at 3:30 PM
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Weedeater @ Andy's in lil d.
Wanz sitting in with Battles.
A great moment at a great show, arm crossers be damned!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
oh god that guy is white????
wait I dont understand why no one was impressed with battles. or at least no one important. I mean, the whole concept is of course revolved around FX so why is everyone upset that they aren't 100% analog. Ian dont have 3120470 fingers!
apparently if they can reproduce the cd live its a bad thing?
man, I know that's a rick roll. NOT FOOLED.
"apparently if they can reproduce the cd live its a bad thing?"
give me a reason to pay, pay more for hot beer, sweat in a hot room and watch you. i could of just turned up the battles cd in my apartment and been as enthused. the beer would have been a lot cheaper.
You know what?
I really thought that I coined the phrase "Whatevs." I really did. Also, "face melting".
However, I did not create
"... from hell."
That was Richard Lewis.
If Battles is not your thing then it's just not your thing. I was blown away by the show.They take the rules of minimal techno and apply them to Prog rock. It's not for everybody but from I could tell the vast majority of the people were way into it. Every sample or loop from their entire set was made live in front of our faces with each member using the Gibson echoplex. Nothing was pre-recorded. Their technique and execution was truly superhuman. Some people just like to cross their arms. I am willing to bet some people did not move around much because they were in awe. They have a supermayer(Michael Mayer and Superpitcher) remix coming out in September. Look for it.
If Battles is not your thing then it's just not your thing. I was blown away by the show.They take the rules of minimal techno and apply them to Prog rock. It's not for everybody but from I could tell the vast majority of the people were way into it. Every sample or loop from their entire set was made live in front of our faces with each member using the Gibson echoplex. Nothing was pre-recorded. Their technique and execution was truly superhuman. Some people just like to cross their arms. I am willing to bet some people did not move around much because they were in awe. They have a supermayer(Michael Mayer and Superpitcher) remix coming out in September. Look for it.
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Heh- a friend of mine went to the Battles show and caught the Frenz set. He quoted Wanz saying something like "I know it may be hard to believe, since we're so good, but we're from Dallas".
Shit had me rolling.
Don Caballero had people standing there not moving because the beats were hard to follow in a lot of cases. I counted exactly one song in the Battles set that wasn't in 4/4 time. The drums alone would get you moving if you had a soul. Being unimpressed with Battles, I have to question why you stuck around and got in the way. And I have to ask what exactly impresses you. Your taste in live music seems pretty piss poor at this point, but you're entitled to your wrong opinion.
Is math impressive?
I done got Rick-rolled once today and it ain't happenin' again.
Don Caballero's beats weren't hard to follow. They were a rock band that played rock songs. I wanted to like the Battles show but I just didn't. Is 4/4 the only thing that gets you moving?
i love rick astley, he's also hot.
zanzibar snails tonight at the cavern. I'm unfamiliar with the other bands. It could be a fun opportunity to see the look on SMU kids faces. "what is this noise that I do not understand?"
fyi, there's a bunch of pictures of fry street burning to it's well deserved grave on
www.dentonrockcity.com
its about time ifn u ask me.
I said nothing of the sort. I said
"we are from Dallas and we don't suck".
I don't think we are all that either. Your friend heard what he wanted to hear, because his mind was already made up about me. No matter how much you and your friends try to force a certain personality on me at that end of the day....I'm not that guy. Just listen to the music. That is all that matters. There are plenty of bands with mountain sized ego's around here that deserve the hate more than I. Look at the Curtain Club.
Not at all, the 9/8 tune that Battles played had me bobbing my head too.
I didn't realize Battles could be so polarizing. I don't believe I've heard anyone say the show was ok, it was either mind-blowing or unimpressive. To each their own i suppose. Quick question for those who felt something was a bit lacking - are you one of the Battles fans who Ty thinks they may have alienated with the new record? Just out of curiosity.
Why do people care about Wanz so much? Seriously... he's not horrible and he's certainly not greatness.
I don't understand how he gets so much attention either way.
Nevertheless... continue with your bitching and whining. About the only thing this site is good for.
I'll check back in a few weeks and see if WSJR has made any improvements.
WANZ THREAD -
www.dentonrockcity.com
then click on WANZ
WSJR, I love you, but you're bringing me down....
Is anything they've done better than Trans? I hope so. That album sure does kick some ass. And then the keyboard thing comes in.
cezanne was pretty fucking good.
new topic... Sonic Youth, House of Blues 10/07/07. Tickets onsale saturday. Only three months ahead...unless they meant 2008. Anyways, $25. BYOCred
Just heard that Zanzibar Snails is not playing the Cavern tonight.
Yeah, but Storm and Stress fucking ROCKED! Did you see them when they came to Denton the first time(was it the last too?) I didn't think so.
Thanks for being so goddamn informative about shows. I'd recommend getting rid of this stupid comments shit(cynicism, eletism(not spelled like that(fag), egoism, masturbation, etc.), because it is completely unhealthy for everyone involved.
I heard Battles fucking pwned, by the way. So.....ummm.....suck it.
:B
Every time I try to find out more about this Wanz character, I'm confronted by a beautiful enigma wrapped in a trench coat!
hey dl,
what bands impress you?
please be specific.
i (we) need names of bands.
i bought a condo today.
I truly appreciate the "Let them get it out of their system." approach that WSJR is taking with the Denton Rick Roll.
I do think it's kind of funny.
Re: Sonic Youth playing House of Blues
No $25 show by any band will make me lift my boycott of said club. Fuck that place. And did I really read that Sonic Youth is still touring in support of Rather Ripped? How truly lame of a band I used to hold in such high esteem.
After hearing that Sonic Youth only played for 30 minutes (encore included) last year I've been completely out on their live show. Especially since it cost 30 dollars at the Gypsy. A very bad move on their part. And now to hear that they are still supporting Rather Ripped, that just makes me even more angry and ostracized (correct use, i don't know). It's like they don't even care about their fans. I'd rather go to local shows anyway nowadays. The bands around here are much more interesting.
However, I did just go to their website and it says their playing for free in Marfa on October 6 in support of the Chinati Foundation. I think it would be pretty cool if we got a group together to go to Marfa that weekend.
Sonic Youth at HOB = bleh.
Sonic Youth at Thunderbird Hotel in Marfa = Holy Crap! Really! Let's do it!
what? nobody sat in w/ nobody at battles..... the drums were cool, everything else was... too cool (a la the walkmen)
cavern? smu kids? PLEASE. you haven't been here long
i had not ever heard a single note played by battles before... it was cool... the way the music was constructed. the beats that the drummer used were also rad... i don't know that they are worth flipping your shit over, though..... it's like liars w/ boston-style track suits (and aesthetic)
yeah we didn't play the Cavern, you're welcome Dallas. Maybe when Sloppytime begins, probably not before. I must say though hearing clips of this Electric Brown outfit kind of intrigued me. Anybody know anything about them?
and, jonofdeath, I'm 99.99% sure the Thunderbird is booked for Chinati. Camping trip anyone?
"cavern? smu kids? PLEASE. you haven't been here long"
Everytime I've went there in the last year, there has been a steady traffic of SMU kids partying through regardless of the band. talking through the sets, spilling beer on people, and leaving during the sets of bands because they realize that they cant talk on their cell phones. That is why I no longer go there or anywhere else on greenville. (Except good records)
If that isn't the SMU crowd doing that, then dallas is in worse shape than I thought.
HEY DL!!!!!!
WHAT BANDS IMPRESS YOU?????
PLEASE BE SPECIFIC!!!!
God damn I love me a good condo
DL once told me that the best show he's ever seen was this Pennywise show in Dallas a few years ago with Hagfish opening.
That and Rocket Summer, obviously.
Marfa is booked solid for Chinati Open House weekend. If you want to camp, start checking for campground sites in Ft. Davis, Alpine, and Ft. Stockton.
If you're up for a longer drive, I'm sure there are rooms or rentable space in an abandoned school bus in Terlingua.
Maybe with the free show in Marfa they're atoning for the Starbucks CD and the Urban Outfitter live show they have planned.
Once, when I was still a teen, I attended a Hagfish show. After the show, I approached the singer, George Reagan, who was standing in a circle of admirers. I told him that I enjoyed the show, and he responded by mimicking me in a "retard voice". I never listened to that douche's band again.
However, years later, I was at a roller skating party that a friend-of-a-friend was throwing. I was trying to learn to skate backwards, but couldn't quite get it. One of the other guests noticed I was having trouble and spent the rest of the party teaching me how to do it. Who was this nice guy? Former Hagfish singer and colossal douche bag: George Reagan.
Wait, it could have been Rick Astley.
same hair.
You are a complete fag.
tonight's show at pastime...
only $5
DOORS AT 8PM
11:30PM WEEDEATER (Southern Lord)
10:30PM Mitra (ex-speedealer)
9:30PM Wo Fat (dallas stoner rock...)
1503 S. Ervay St. Dallas TX
thanks...
Very astute generalizations about SMU students, guys - You all deserve a pat on the back.
I have been going to the Cavern about 2x a month for two years, and I've never seen another SMU student there - much less one causing a beer-spilling, cellphone-shouting scene.
When was the last time any of you hung out with someone from SMU?
i hang out with the cobra m-f from 3-7
I know a guy from SMU who's pretty effin' cool. Also, I happen to know that DL's favorite band is Sleater-Kinney. Therefore I trust everything he says.
we like girls from SMU. don't have to spoil them, since their daddies already do.
" I think it would be pretty cool if we got a group together to go to Marfa that weekend."
It would be great if WSJR chartered a party bus to drive everyone there and back. I wonder if anyone would still be alive at the end. With all the hostility in the comments section, an American homicide record isn't out of the question, is it?
I went to the Battles show since I enjoy the music. I was thoroughly impressed. The hipster patrol was out in full force, the place was packed, so I guess it was a good place to be if you are a scenester. I just dont understand why someone would pay 14 bucks for a show if they are just gonna stand around with a hipper than thou stance. Crossed arms are fine, who cares, just get the fuck out of my way so I can enjoy the show, since I, you know, like the music and don't give two shits who doesn't. I certainly don't think having a blog for everyone to read validates anyones opinion as being meaningful at all either. Denton has just as many pretentious douchebags as Dallas, so please get over yourselves.
you know what's great about this anon stuff, you can be honest with yourself as well. I remember a time when I saw some trendy doods and hated them because I thought they were "hipper than thou". Turns out, I think I was just jealous because I thought they were pretty cool looking people. I am in no way cool looking or trendy, but I know when to call bullshit on myself.
So, I don't buy any of this. If you were so into the music and didn't care what other people thought, why are you so focused on the people you consider cooler than you?
btw, since it's anonymous, there is no shame in admitting you're wrong. nobody knows who you are so... what gives?
so, lets say that i am in my 30s, i have seen a million shows, and i work all day--am i not enjoying the show because i want to stand and watch. maybe i dont feel like dancing, maybe when i am dancing i am not paying enough attention to the music, or maybe i would be quite happy to SIT and watch a show. none of this means i am not enjoying myself, so please stop all the criticizing of how other people enjoy themselves. experiencing art is a personal experience and is different from one person to the next.
I have preferred sitting at shows since I was in my teens. Denton needs more balconies dood.
I always thought that one of the best parts of going to shows, rather than listening to CD's or watching videos, was the interaction of the crowd and the band or performer. When a band gets good vibes from the crowd, they tend to play better and get more into it, which hypes the crowd up, and on and on in a never-ending loop until the show is at a completely different level than it started out at. I would think those good vibes would be coming from the members of the audience who are moving and dancing, not sitting or standing motionless. All I know is that every one of my favorite shows involved a crowd that was moving and a band that was digging it and taking their performance up a notch in response. And coming from a musician's point of view, it's a bit of a downer to see the crowd staring, motionless, seemingly dissecting the entire performance. They always come off as the type that feel like they're wasting their time being there, or think they could do better, or are only there to be seen by the hipsters. It's a quasi-political indie posturing thing and it fucking pisses me off. Does anyone wonder why Battles didn't play an encore? It should be blatantly obvious by now. I'm not saying everyone has to be dancing like an idiot to enjoy the show. Nodding your head to the beat would be a giant leap forward compared to the crowd at Battles though.
As far as the Battles show, they did do an encore of sorts. They played an hour, took a quick beer/smoke break while the crowd clapped them back up and played one last song. I wasn't really looking around to see whether anyone was reacting a certain way or not, I was into the performance and more or less grooving out. There were alot of people there to see them and quite enthusiasic applause after the songs. And I remember the two tall very attractive girls enjoying themselves. I would think that would mean a majority of the crowd was into it, just maybe not moving around much.
I agree w/ 7:07. I didn't know that there was only one way to enjoy music. apparently you gotta be dancing or else you hate the music and are not helping. well, that's kind of returded thinking. I guess it's easier to focus on other people than it is to look at yourself and your own problems. whatevs.
let the kids dance, but dont criricize me if i sit down after a 50 hour week.
agreed, and don't give some line about being old, over 25 or whatever. Newsflash: You're going to be 30 someday too. Hopefully you'll still be into watching music.
Being over 25 is no excuse, I'm over 35, work a physical job full time, and can still manage to stand and pay attention to a band when they come to town. I say sit down with your arms crossed blowing smoke into everyone elses lungs talking to your friends as if it's your own living room if you want to, just don't do it in the middle of the floor in front of the band and expect me to move if you can't see over me. You can stare at my ass if your gonna sit on the floor.
geez, nevermind. I didn't even go to this show so forget it.
point missed.
i am over 30. i still watch music. i still love art. i still give the band my energy.
i still dont need to be criticized if i dont dance.
i being naked while i listen to music. too bad i can't do that at shows.
just go get fat and shut up
this blog is funny. people telling other people not to bother or criticize them at shows. what a country!
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