It List: Tuesday
The Juan Maclean (The Loft): Stonedranger thought I wouldn't be too familiar with The Juan Maclean and took it upon himself to give me this little primer:
1. they are touring as a four piece
2. Front man John MacLean used to be in Six Finger Satellite
3. He was one of the original members of the DFA crew, and anticipated a return of Chicago house and disco as early as 2002, when he started working with James Murphy in NY
4. Album due out later this year, new single "Happy house" has become a huge club hit over the summer, and it is pretty much straight-up Chicago house, complete with a pounding straight piano loop... you can listen to it on the myspace page if you want to hear for yourself... wait until about 2:30 into the song in order to get a feel for it.
Coolz?"
I would just like to add that I have been a fan of Maclean's music for over a decade, though I think his straight-faced foray into straight-up house music has moments that are better than others, which I suspect is precisely why SR sent me the informative e-mail. I've seen some live videos that have definitely sold me on seeing the group perform this music. Six Finger Satellite's recorded output from 1993 to 1998 is so ahead of its time, that I'm hard-pressed to think of a 90's band that sounds less dated, especially for a group on Sub Pop. Murphy's weirdly distorted beat production on the last SFS album Maclean was featured on, "Law Of Ruins" is still a fascinating listen over two LP's. I am still kicking myself for choosing not to see the group at Rubber Gloves, so many years ago. I hate teenage Defensive Listening.
UPDATE: I should also mention that Keith P is opening this show.
Thee Oh Sees/Sic Alps/Dogme 95/Ty Sengall (The Lounge): Though San Francisco's Pink And Brown were quite respected and respectable, the duo, consisting of John Dwyer and Jeff Rosenberg, maintained that respect largely by involving themselves in such a diverse list of projects: Coachwhips, The Hospitals, Young People, and of course, Thee Oh Sees. Thee Oh Sees aren't necessarily my favorite out of this list of noteworthy groups, they sound about what you'd expect from a band that uses "Thee" in their name: energetic, reverbed out, garage rock, with some psych passages. Thee Oh Sees have an excellent live reputation and this sounds like a show worth catching overall. The Sic Alps released a record on Siltbreeze over the summer, and have a sound that is as anachronistically inspired as Thee Oh Sees, but is dirtier, druggier, and more sprawling. Local act Dogme 95 has done everything from solo folk stuff, to remixes of other artists' music, to revisionist Nirvana covers.
PS-No hard feelings, SR. You big jerk.
posted by Defensive Listening at 3:57 PM
58 Comments:
Coolz?
Ok, I have serious doubts about whether shane english posted an article about college football, but whoever did it, please quit doing that. If you want to talk about an article that long, just post a link.
Elementry quiz for you music snobs...
What constitutes some artist or a band being mainstream and not mainstream?
or Elementary.
Reporter Warns Staged Financial Crisis Part Of Fascist Coup ...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/reporter-warns-staged-financial-crisis-part-of-fascist-coup.html/comment-page-7/#comments
if you are on any major label or independent subsidary of a major if you are played on radio other than college or community (even them mainstream creeps up on the college radio-radiohead anyone)if you are in spin, roling stone, fader, vice, pitchfork, etc.
then you are mainstream
and even the "indie" mainstream has been sucking for a while now
local and non-corporate is where its at
That, then, is the dangerous crisis with which your Order and your courts faced. Speeches have been prepared, laws drafted, with the purpose of inflaming still further this hatred that already rages against the Senate. And at this very juncture Gaius Verres has been brought to trial. Here is a man whose life and actions the world has already condemned--yet whose enormous fortune, according to his own loudly expressed hopes, has already brought him acquittal! I, gentlemen, am his prosecutor, and the people of Rome are strongly and confidently on my side.
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That, then, is the dangerous crisis with which your Order and your courts faced. Speeches have been prepared, laws drafted, with the purpose of inflaming still further this hatred that already rages against the Senate. And at this very juncture Gaius Verres has been brought to trial. Here is a man whose life and actions the world has already condemned--yet whose enormous fortune, according to his own loudly expressed hopes, has already brought him acquittal! I, gentlemen, am his prosecutor, and the people of Rome are strongly and confidently on my side.
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Astronautilus has the song of the day on NPR.org
sorry, i was napping. did somebody say NPR?
wait until 2:30 into the song? who has that kind of fucking time, rupert??
make it snappy and quick, muthafucka........................
welcome to now.
don mclean
the boys from brazil
That song blows sooooooooooooooo fuckin hard
who the fuck really wants a coup? I mean the government is obviously watching us. Dye. Red Dye.
who the fuck really wants a coup? I mean the government is obviously watching us. Dye. Red Dye.
As soon as more than 10 people go to your show,buy your album,download your songs,friend you on myspace,or know who you you are,you are mainstream.May as well just play music at home to an audience of none to maintain any amount of cred.
nope
wait just a minute. please step away from the nope, sir/ma'am.
watching us? watching who? not yo crusty ole ass, that's fo real fo sho.
put the pipe down and just walk away, foo......................
fo shizzle my wizzle:
it means i concur whole heartedly with you my white african american sista or brother!
fo shizzle my wizzle on the dizzle you digg you fucking stupid jew banging whigger
sucks oy ouy ous oui oi
Six Finger Satellite is fucking amazing. More people need to listen to them.
Yes they are. Yes they do!
Wow! I hears 6FS is doing some kind of reunion.
Severe Exposure!
The myspace songs aren't playing for me. Curious
I just hooked up a free dl of "Severe Exposure". That shits bangin. Fuck man.
i feel sorry for anybody in the area that thinks they know anything about what's going on in current dance music and DIDN'T go to the loft tonight. all there is to say bout it.
fuck you go see good music , unless u live in denton , that sucks . Take a shower
showers are for pussies.
last i heard good records is still giving away hot chip tickets in exchange for a canned good and the purchase of an album.
If you place any importance in being mainstream or non-mainstream then you have already sold out. You should make music and leave the mainstream/non-mainstream politics out of it. Fuck MTV corporate bullshit. Fuck DIY elitisim.
yep
are the canned goods for ceepee?
aww.. 9:10, you're so sweet...
Shane English doesn't want people to know this, but he originally came to Denton on scholarship to play middle linebacker for the UNT football team.
He got kicked off the team the first week for being "roided out."
It's true!
Listening to this NPR membership drive is more exciting than half the shit being written in Denton right now.
7:28 AM: duh.
no ones placing an importance on that shit. the point of that statement was to place importance on the opinions of the ELITIST bastards here. You're getting lost on the subject matter.
pass the peas?
SFS reunion? Awesome. When they were around, I was too busy worrying about who the coolest Power Ranger was...and not going to shows.... I was like...5-14 in the 90's... C'mon...
15... not 14... the 90's were 10 years...
I don't see what the fuss is all about with elitism. Anyone who specializes in anything could be considered elite in their field/study. In fact in my opinion a majority of "elitists" merely try to inform the general public with specific knowledge, that then gets viewed as a negative cynical bias by those thinking they are oppressed by learning a new idea/thought/belief/work/song/band/pov.
But what do you expect in a population completely misinformed and misguided. I mean, honestly, there are bigger issues in the world than that.
Because music is completely subjective. Saying this band is better than that or that band sucks is a mere matter of opinion not fact. There are no standards of measurement in music that can be used. "Elitists" in regards to music are just assholes because they think they know better than everyone else. The truth is they are just assholes. It is one thing to say you don't like a band and another to go around saying they suck. It is also impolite. A lot of people work hard on their music and it is creative expression. Artists should respect artists. Doesn't mean you have to agree. It is just good etiquette.
Fuck etiquette. That has nothing to do with "art" or "music." If you create something, brace yourself for people saying they don't like it. This applies to everything from the McRib Recipe to improv to pop records. People who are scared of elitism, are usually just insecure and afraid that people won't like their music. Music is one of the only areas where you are penalized the more you know about it.
the message at 7:28 is touched by wisdom.
Knowing the backstory behind a certain piece of music is as important as knowing the specs of what goes into a McRib.
You either like something or you don't. The more you know, the less you like something. So shut the fuck up and either listen to what you like, or don't.
Writing about music is like singing about writing. Pointless.
Amazing how many people at WSJ bitch about corporate elitism on one hand, and then suck up to D Magazine (the most shamelessly corporate ad brochure in town) on the other.
Please. Fucking hypocrites...
there is no accounting for taste, and i wouldnt dare anyone around here to have any etiquette. it seems those without etiquette are usually immature and have no respect and therefore deserve none. ive noticed that artists with any talent are respectful of other artists regardless whether they like the music or not, because they understand what goes into making and producing art.
those that think making and producing art and what goes into it is so important and makes them so important by proxy are fools who deserve to be taken down a notch. many of the great artists throughout history had little use for etiquette, but we're still talking about them. chances are we won't be discussing your fake-polite ass and your boring art.
Hey golden gold, how about READING someone's writing about music and then...writing about reading the writing about music. Feel stupid yet?
D Magazine makes no bones about what it is. The Observer pretends to be a cool, independent rag and it's owned by a major corporation. Oh, and you think there are no corporate ads in The Observer? D Magazine has better writers. Period. The New York Times and The New Yorker have corporate advertising, but the writing is great. Whatever.
When did the Wall Street Journal start sucking up to D Magazine?
Having etiquette is not about fake politeness, its about having enough class to realize that others have their right to expression.
You don't have to like it, but that does not invalidate what someone else might be feeling and choosing to quantify into an artistic expression.
First of all, I don't really give a shit what any of you think about etiquette or being polite. You all have your own opinions. When you grow up you will understand the virtue in being polite even when you don't want to be. Second of all, you're showing how cynical you are by assuming being polite is fake. Why don't we all start being "REAL" as if anyone is actually completely genuine all the time. To be genuinely polite is real. I'm sorry you believe everyone is as shallow as you are. Third, who said I was an artist and why are you attacking me? Fourth, there is something special about people who feel obligated to create. Also, etiquette doesn't make or break artists. Some people are good artists and assholes. Sometimes it comes with the territory. Fifth, the process of being creative is interesting and personal. Especially, if what is being created is considered to be of high value by whomever is experiencing. For example, Van gogh's routines and dedication to his work. Sixth, you obviously think that being famous and "talked about" is the point of creating. I respect your opinion but I disagree.
D Magazines has better writers? Besides Zac Crain, who?
Tim Rogers?
HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAAHAAAHHAAAHHAAAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Right.
SR (2:36)
How about when they re-ran Wick Allison's (R) endorsement of Barack Obama?
Did anyone catch the sic alps? I missed it.
fuck, derek, this is wsjr. now, pull up your pampers and get on with it w/out sermonizing. jerk-off...
lol
sic alps were great.
oh sees were amazing
were they?
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