Two Thousand Hate: The Year That Was (By We Shot JR and Pals, Peers, Associates, Respected Rivals, Community Leaders, Youth Pastors, and Aldermen)
So I know this is what you would consider "late" as far as year-end summaries are concerned, but do you know which other completely respectable music-writing entity NEVER puts a year-end list together until after the new year? The Wire. It's most likely because they're waiting on that last New Zealand hand-made cassette release to be mailed to them in the waning days of any year, and I can certainly respect that more than the salivating hype-monster that starts listing stuff in late August.Wanz Dover/Blixaboy
Best albums of 2008:
1.Portishead - Third
2.Bruno Pronsato - Why Can't We Be Like Us?
3.Anja Schneider - Beyond The Valley
4.Millie & Andrea - Black Hammer/Gunshot
5.Fall - Imperial Wax Solvent
6.Andy Stott - Bad Landing
7.Murcof - The Versailles Sessions
8. Shackleton & Appleblim - Soundboy's Gravestone Gets Desecrated By Vandals9. Scuba - A Mutual Antipathy
10.Arthur Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me
11.Benga - Diary of an Afro Warrior
12. Ricardo Villalobos - Vasco
13.Hercules & Love Affair - s/t
14.Ricardo Villalobos - Vasco
15.Matmos - Supreme Ballon
16.Ellen Allien - Sool
17. 2562 - Aerial
18. Anthony Braxton,Milford Graves, William Parker - Beyond Quantum
19. Shed - Shedding the Past
20. Quiet Village - Silent Village
Best Shows of 2008:
1.Glen Branca 100 guitar ensemble/St.Louis Symphony Orchestra -The St.louis Symphony played Frank Zappa's G-spot tornado, Edgar Varese's Arcana and debuted Branca's Symphony 14. The 100 guitar ensemble was a strange ensemble featuring players from a wide variety of backgrounds. 15 year old kids, guitar enthusiasts that did not know who Branca even was, Jazz fusion legend Joh Patitucci and of course 4 lucky individuals from Dallas all coming together to play on the most intense and cutting edge guitar music of the 21st century. Probably the best show I have seen ever.
2.Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings - You can't fuck with a top notch soul band and they are the best soul band on the planet right now. I took my parents for there anniversary present. My pop said he had not seen anything like that since he was a young lad going to see shows on the chitlin circuit. I have never seen them smile that big.
3.Melodica 2008 - It was a bad ass array of all of my favorite local bands and a few acts from other places. Despite the fallout afterwards, I'm glad it happened.
4.Meat Beat Manifesto @ The Granada - bad ass drummer. All of the movie samples in the set actually came the video they were projecting.Dub, techno, krautrock like explorations and innovative video work. A decent turnout, but a lot of people missed out on this one.
5. Juan Maclean @ The Loft - I turned 35 at this show. I danced my ass off at the front the stage for the entire show. The live version of Happy House was like Can playing Chicago House. I normally don't get into much house music, but on this night they made me a believer. The drummer was bad ass and they played the fuck out of their synths and sequencers. Unfortunately there were only 20 to 30 people at the show guaranteeing that they will probably never come back.
6.Dub Assembly - Mad props go out to Dub assembly for bringing so many top notch producers like Hatcha, Scuba, Martyn and Caspa(I actually mised Caspa). I could list 6 different dub events for best shows so I will just bundle them up into one. They consistently showcase the most cutting edge dance music around town.
7.Corima @ Red Blood Club -3 young guys who play magma influenced zeuhl music. They renewed my faith in live music. They played a 15 minute set and it was one of the most magical moments I experienced from a live band all year.
8.Venetian Snares/Otto von Shirach/Cyrus Rego @ Elysium
trends I hate:
*Cliques and Politics - I hate to be an old guy, but it did not used to be as bad as it is now. People need to wake up and unite before it is too late.
*People not going to live shows. Not just my shows, but any shows. I am often one of 10 people at a good show. Local or roadshows.
*People relying on blogs to tell them what is cool instead getting out their and finding and buying music for themselves. Blogs are a good source for new music, but it should not be the defining source. (This is not directed at weshotjr)
CJ Davis (Pancakes For Mattie Records)
My memory fades...
Records:
1. Samamidon - All is Well
2. Stars Like Fleas - The Ken Burns Effect
3. Emeralds - Solar Bridge
4. Koen Holtkamp - Field Rituals
5. Haunted Graffiti - Live in Pacific Palisades
6. Pattern is Movement - All Together
7. Quinn Walker - Laughter's an Asshole/Lion Land
8. Tape - Luminarium
9. Juana Molina - Un Dia
10. School of Language - Sea from Shore
Shows:
Samamidon/Mom/Voices & Organs at Glasslands in Brooklyn.
Steve Reich showcase (he ran lights) at St. David's Church...SXSW.
Akron/Family at Emo's...SXSW.
Mika Miko and No Age in a parking garage at SXSW.
Memories good and one bad:
Phosphorescent shutting down a showcase in Austin after jumping into the pool.
'Little Brite' being released in Japan.
Me- "Excuse me, Sir. Sir. Mr. Reich. Sigh. Mr. Reich! Oh, Hi. Could we take just a minute of your time for a photo?"
S.Reich- After looking at wife for approval..."OK, I suppose. Let's just make it snappy."
Finding a copy of The Feelies 'The Good Earth' LP for 25 cents at a garage sale in Oak Cliff.
Leaving Good Records for the last time.
Congrats to everyone who released records this year, especially MATAS and Fight Bite (though that 7" was my idea. Wink.)
-C.J.D.
Hunter Hauk (Quick/DMN)
ON THE MENU IN 2008
Local and national flavors included.
WINE and BEER (Loosens you up)
— Black Tie Dynasty, Down Like Anyone
— Toadies, No Deliverance
— Collin Herring, Past Life Crashing
— Ne-Yo, Year of the Gentleman
— Madonna, “4 Minutes”
— Lil’ Wayne, The Carter III
— MGMT, Oracular Spectacular
— Hercules and Love Affair, “Blind”
APPETIZERS (Small, savory bites)
— Mount Righteous, When the Music Starts
— Sorta, Sorta
— The O’s, The O’s
— Faux Fox, All That Remains
— Vampire Weekend, Vampire Weekend
— James Morrison, Songs for You, Truths for Me
— Santogold, Santogold
SOUPS (A concoction made from many ingredients)
— Hot Chip, Made in the Dark
— Of Montreal, Skeletal Lamping
— Girl Talk, Feed the Animals
— My Morning Jacket, Evil Urges
— PPT, Denglish
— Astronautalis, Pomegranate
— Matthew and the Arrogant Sea, Family Family Family Meets the Magic Christian
SALADS (Raw, nutritious)
— Ryan Adams and the Cardinals, Cardinology
— Nada Surf, Lucky
— The Black Keys, Attack & Release
— Metallica, Death Magnetic
— Record Hop, Record Hop
— Stumptone, Gravity Suddenly Released
— Pinebox Serenade, Let the River Take Them Home
MAIN COURSE (Tastes good, sustains)
— The New Year, The New Year
— Dove Hunter, The Southern Unknown
— Erykah Badu, New Amerykah Pt. One: 4th World War
— Centro-matic/South San Gabriel, Dual Hawks
— Death Cab for Cutie, Narrow Stairs
— Sia, Some People Have Real Problems
— TV on the Radio, Dear Science
— Q-Tip, The Renaissance
DESSERT (Sweet, addictive, rots your teeth)
— Roy G and the Biv, self-titled EP
— Ghosthustler, “Only Me to Trust”
— B-Hamp, “Do the Ricky Bobby”
— Danity Kane, “Damaged”
— Beyoncé, I Am … Sasha Fierce
— Chris Brown, “Forever”
— Lady Gaga, The Fame
— Britney Spears, “Womanizer”
— Miley Cyrus, “Fly on the Wall”
AFTER-DINNER SMOKE (Calms you down)
— Sarah Jaffe, Even Born Again
— Fight Bite, Emerald Eyes
— Elkhart, The Moon
— Daniel Folmer, A Leaf
— Menkena, “Rocketships”
— Scarlett Johansson, Anywhere I Lay My Head
— Adele, 19
— Nine Inch Nails, Ghosts I-IV
Tommy Boy
I must admit, I was hard-pressed to come up with my list for 2008. Seems there's an elasticity to my record appreciation. After years of scouring for the best, new release of each year, I've found I tend to go back in time more and more. Most of the tracks I've collected this year came out 20-30 years ago.
That said, my selection contains current 2008 releases which focus on the nostalgic, retrofuturistic aesthetic with a heavy leaning towards disco production. I hope people are able to find a few more gems in this list to add to their '08 iPod.
1. Medio Mutante - Inestable [Cititrax]
Blending Hip-hop, Jazz, Latin Freestyle and New Wave records from Europe, America and Japan, Medio Mutante released an album that sounds like none other this year. A mutated blend of raw and propulsive energy emanates from their retro analogue gear. They've created a classic "Third Wave" recording that will fit nicely into anyones cold/new/no wave collection. Like Flexipop for the 21st Century. Not to mention the fact that this release came from our neighbors in Austin, TX. Crazy!
2. Quiet Village - Silent Movie [Studio !K7]
Silent Movie is the soundtrack to an imaginary movie that is yet to be filmed. The stand-out track, "Pillow Talk", is a slow and sensual scorcher utilizing samples from Alan Parson's Project "Voyager". From the Spaghetti Western mood of "Circus of Horror" to the almost eerie 70's soft porn "Broken Promises" this is a record that floats like water from start to finish. It's the best late night, chillout record your money can buy this year.
3. The Time And Space Machine [5D Recordings]
1/2 of the brilliant outfit "Beyond The Wizards Sleeve" (another honorable mention for best of 2008), have crafted an album of reworked obscure 60's and 70's psych pop tracks that are a million miles away from their usual remixing duties. Like some long lost "Nuggets" compilation, the album meanders between Psych Pop, Freakbeat, and Kraut effortlessly. The perfect soundtrack to smoke dank and watch "Holy Mountain" to. Best psychedelic record to come out in 2008.
4. El Bum - Bumrocks [Bumrocks]
Compilation LP from my favorite blog of 2008(bumrocks.com). Enlisting the "Indiana Jones'" of the disco crate digging community, Tako and the Beat Broker, the compilation serves up some of the rarest holy relics of Discodom. Bumrocks has released the best "must have" compilation for any Baleric/Cosmic Disco enthusiast. Ultra limited and completely collectible, this record is my personal favorite of the year.
5. Cosmic Balearic Beats Vol. 1 [Eskimo Recordings]
The Eskimo label presents the first volume in a series dedicated to Cosmic Balearic beats featuring tracks from up'n'coming nu-disco producers like Coyoyte, and Lovelock(1/2 of Zombi). This trans-global intergalactic funk odyssey blends '70s disco, early '80s electro, and horror-disco making for a very rewarding journey. Roll down the windows, turn the stereo up and let the cosmic Balearic beats flood in.
6. Black Devil Disco Club - Eight Oh Eight [Lo Recordings]
The third and supposedly final part of a trilogy of releases in the last four years, Black Devil Disco Club has proved yet again that disco can be just as dark and brooding as any genre. Black Devil Disco Club is a mysterious fella. His first album Disco Club, supposedly produced in the seventies, was anointed an underground disco classic though no one seemed to know much about it until its reissue in 2004. Ignoring the mystery that remains around the origination of this group/sound, the album speaks for itself. Mystical, Tribal, Dark, Dissonant, Horrific, billed as "Salvador Dali meets Cerrone" and sounding like some hybrid of Fela Kuti and Claudio Simmonetti, BDDC maintains their enigmatic creative originality with this release. There just aren't enough analogies or descriptive words which can qualify the brilliance of this series.
7. Elaste Volume 2 - Space Disco [Compost Records]
Eskimo has yet another stellar release. This label has really set the bar for quality year after year. The compilation selected by Tom Wieland is simultaneously sultry and extra-terrestrial. Each track comes off sounding like some divine offspring of a Cerrone-Moroder marriage. This compilation remains a crucial cosmic/space disco to keep even the most insatiable crate digger satisfied.
8. Arthur Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me [Rough Trade]
I'm not going to spend much time describing this since it's on alot of top 10s already. Needless to say, genius. Heaven sent. Ahead of it's time... all that. Not just a best of 2008, but in the "all time" category. A must have for any audiophile.
9. Dennis Wilson - Pacific Ocean Blue Reissue [Legacy]
I was one of those stubborn, angry, anti-Beach Boy, Brian/Dennis Wilson haters a few years back when bands like Vietnam, Spiritualized, and Polyphonic Spree were getting a lot of attention. For some reason, their music didn't resonate with me. Fast forward a few years, allow life to beat you down a bit and see peers drop off one by one, and then reintroduce Dennis Wilson's brilliant opus "Pacific Ocean Blues" and it all makes sense. Years of hard living and lack of exposure due to the huge shadow his more successful brother Brian, left this emotionally raw, grandiose psych-soul masterpiece in a black hole of anonymity. Thank god someone saw fit to remaster and release this gem along with some amazing songs from Dennis's unfinished "Bambu" recordings. A true classic.
10. Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna [Warp]
Again, this is in most "heads" top tens for 2008 for all the same reasons. Not to belabor the point, GGD is most of the most intriguing, brilliant groups of this or any era. It's great to have another quality release from this group.
Sober (The Party/Central Booking)
1. Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
2. A.B.N. - Assholes By Nature
3. Santogold - Santogold
4. Hercules And Love Affair - Hercules And Love Affair
5. Q-Tip - Renaissance
6. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
7. Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna
8. Raphael Saadiq - The Way I See It
9. Hot Chip - Made In The Dark
10. Lykke Li - Youth Novels
Anthony Mariani (Fort Worth Weekly)
Kenny Garrett ‘Sketches of MD: Live At The Iridium’
Boredoms -‘Super Roots 9’
Orchestre Poly-Rythmo de Cotonou ‘Volume 1: The Vodoun Effect 1973-1975’
Foals- ‘Antidotes’
Coconot -‘Cosa Astral’
Calhoun -‘Falter.Waver.Cultivate’
Collin Herring -‘Past Life Crashing’
ES -‘Sateenkaarisuudelma’
Taylor Eigsti - ‘Let It Come To You’
Jose Gonzalez -‘Live at Park Avenue’
Ulaan Khol -‘I’
Fujiya & Miyagi -‘Lightbulbs’
Zac Crain (Frontburner)
Here are Top 10 new records (in no certain order, except WAVVES, because that would be No. 1 in every iteration of my list)
WAVVES, s/t
The New Year, s/t
Jay Reatard, Matador Singles '08/Singles 06-07
Lil Wayne, Tha Carter III
No Age, Nouns
Deerhoof, Offend Maggie
Cool Kids, The Bake Sale
Fight Bite, Emerald Eyes
TV on the Radio, Dear Science
Jay-Z, unreleased tracks from The Blueprint III
Rick V. (1919 Hemphill)
Top 4 shows that nobody came to at 1919.
4. Best Fwends Tour Kick Off Show: It was advertised the wrong day in the weekly papers. All the other bands that were supposed to play (Akkolyte and Orange Cokes) canceled. Best Fwends played to five people and two giant blow up gargoyles.
3. Ippur, Bolth and a band that canceled: Somebody brought a fog machine and the whole upstairs looked like a Slaughter music video. The three people and the guys in Ippur chanted "Dads" over and over again while Bolth was playing. Inbetween every song somebody would say something about their dad. After the Bolth set, the singer called his dentist dad up and asked about my wisdom tooth pain. His dad wasn't too pleased that people were applauding him on our side of the line.
2. Mose Giganticus, Death to the Doomriders, The Emotron and others: You missed Death to the Doomriders least sloppiest set, a one man freakshow that lifted weights with his eyes and lit a firecracker in a bucket where his testicles were also residing and Mose Giganticus playing Temple of the Dog's "Hunger Strike". You also missed the Emotron which was probably the most insane visual and most terrible musical act in the world.
1. Tattered Flag, TBA: Not even the bands showed up. I closed up 1919 at 7:pm and drove to Austin to see Underground Railroad to Candyland and Japanther. Best 1919 show ever.
Payton Green (Wax Museums)
BEST TOURING BANDS I SAW IN 2008
- SEX/VID@ 715 Panhandle - First time in a long time that I saw a band that was actually really good AND so loud it hurt
- HUMAN EYE @ 715 Panhandle - Same as Sex/Vid but EVEN LOUDER + weirdest punk I saw in '08
- THE OH SEES @ the Lounge - I've always liked this band but I never really GOT IT till this show, I was completely blown away.
- THOMAS FUNCTION @ 715 Panhandle - One of my favorite bands of the year overall, it was triumphant to see them actually pull off playing in the same room where they failed miserably to last year
- MARKED MEN'S LAST SHOW @ Rubber Gloves - Hopefully not actually the last forever, but they played almost every song and it still felt like it flew by
- MY 21ST BIRTHDAY @ 715 Panhandle - Marked Men and Total Abuse totally ripped it up and made the best birthday of my life
- PSYCHEDELIC HORSESHIT/FABULOUS DIAMONDS @ the Chatroom - First and only time I've been there, had an incredible time.
- TERRIBLE TWOS @ 818 Hickory - This band sounds so much like they're from the future that this might should go on best of 2009
- TIMES NEW VIKING/PSYCHEDELIC HORSESHIT @ Strawberry Fields - both bands pretty much at the top of their game, one of my favorite TNV sets ever, Psych Horseshit was a little better in Ft. Worth I think but they were still great.
- COLA FREAKS/BLACK TIME @ Muscle Beach - So much fun, successful doubly international show, unfortunately the beginning of neighbor problems at MB.
- The Intelligence @ Club Dada - It's a shame that no one was there, blew me away.
- Vivian Girls @ Exploding House - Sounded impressively like the records, funny how much huger this show would be now, only a little more than 6 months later.
- The Dutchess and the Duke @ the Loft - Touched my heart! So good in contrast to Fleet Foxes, who introduced me to a whole new level of boring. Also the fact that Jesse from D&D repeatedly walked across the stage during the FF set to grab beers was a highlight of my year in and of itself.
Dave (Muscle Beach)
Because I am lame I don't think I listened to even close to ten albums that came out in 2008. I really enjoyed Beaks to the Moon by The Shivers, though. Pretty sure that came out in '08. Oh, and that Mount Eerie and Julie Doiron record. I played that one a lot, too.
top five shows
1. Dynasty
2. Falcon Crest
3. How I Met Your Mother
4. Silver Spoons
5. Byron Allen's Entertainment Studios. com
Music I hated in 2008 and why
Teenage Cool Kids: Jerks
Wax Museums: Pill poppers
Orange Coax: Motherfuckers
Trifle Tower: Also motherfuckers
Mom: Misogynists
And finally my number one moment for 2008 was when I was named president of the marzipan club. I can promise big things in 2009*
*As long as they have something to do with marzipan.
Fungi Girls
Our top 15 albums of the year in alphabetical order:
Abe Vigoda - Skeleton
A very, very fun album that's a huge step up from their older stuff.
Crystal Stilts - Alight Of Night
Beautiful pop songs with Joy Division-esque vocals that's nice for laying in your bed on a rainy day.
Deerhoof - Offend Maggie
Pretty straightforward album that’s not nearly as experimental as their older albums. Somehow it turned out great, though.
Deerhunter - Microcastles
Even more gorgeous pop songs that's nice for laying in your bed on a rainy day, like the aforementioned Crystal Stilts.
Ducktails - Point Pleasant Beach [7”]
Tropical psychedelic pop tunes from a guy from New Jersey that’ll keep you warm on these current, cool winter days.
Fantastic Magic - Sea Of Gold [7”]
Summery psychedelic folk that also has the guy from Wavves in the band. It’s a shame they split up after this 7”.
James Ferraro - Clear
Very interesting and almost indescribable album (just like the rest of his stuff). Kind of like alien arcade game music or something.
Pocahaunted - Peyote Road
A haunting psychedelic drone release.
Religious Knives - The Door
Lovely, chilled-out psychedelic rock that, we think, has a very desert-y feel to it. Don’t ask us how, though, because we’re not entirely sure.
Sun Araw - Boat Trip
Creepy yet beautiful tropical-psych-drone tunes. The song “Canopy” is practically flawless.
Thee Oh Sees - The Master's Bedroom Is Worth Spending A Night In
Probably Thee Oh Sees’ greatest stuff yet. Fun garage rock that is really fucking kickass live.
Times New Viking - Rip It Off
Lo-lo-lo-fi noise pop tunes from Columbus’ finest.
U.S. Girls - Introducing...U.S. Girls
A noisy, avant-garde pop masterpiece.
Wavves - Wavves
A beach-y punk-tinged noise pop album that has been the latest phenomenon amongst blogs and the independent music scene in general.
Women - Women
Wikipedia says their sound is like "sunny Beach Boys pop was dragged into a dark alley and gleefully mutilated". We think that’s an appropriate description.
We were going to only do a top 10, but there were too many we liked.
Defensive Listening (We Shot JR)
This was a rather uninteresting year for actual record releases, though shows were a different story. I felt like I listened to more publicist-speak than music. Judging by a lot of lists (present company excluded), it looks like we all did. But, here's mine in no particular order, because I'm sick of looking at music like the BCS:
Harry Pussy, You'll Never Play This Town Again
Medio Mutante, Inestable
Kool Keith, Dr. Dooom 2
Tommy Boy, Automatic Loverboy Mix
The New Year, s/t
Flipper, Gone Fishin' Reissue
Wax Museums, s/t
The New Bloods, The Secret Life
Girlfren, Dem08 cassette
Nisennenmondai, Tori/Noji
Fight Bite, Emerald Eyes
AIDS Wolf, Cities Of Glass
The Organ, Thieves
That Organ EP is really unbelievable, especially since it's from a band that has been broken up for quite some time, and it's nothing more than their last demo. They somehow manage to put their most diverse group of songs on a little EP, and Katie Sketch goes a long way toward proving she really is the female Morrissey. I would even recommend this record to total morons, and friends of mine that have no taste.
And one more thing: writing these down made 2008 seem better than it actually was. Don't be fooled.
Sally Glass (We Shot JR/Fancy Fist)
I will say that my We Shot JR "year in review" could be summarized by: road trips, sleeping on floors, Thurston Moore, bathing in clothes, drunken shows, sober shows, Ipod inspections, pancake houses, rickshaws, La Vista, pot lucks, heart-to-hearts, cynicism, blind optimism, good hugs, uncertainties, new friendships, Nouns Groups, nervousness, support, family dinners, Denton, Dallas, Cool Out, bad photos, good photos, lots of driving, couches, the fucking Loft, devastating encounters with waiters in Lewisville, anger, frustrations, dickhead commenters, sensitive photographers, appreciation, lots of work, Flickr, NO money, really incredible music, bridges, Fallout Lounge, Meridian Room, The Libertine, The Fucking Cavern (upstairs and down), Pete Freedman, Fucking Zubar, hipsters, block parties, and a family that I never would've had if you didn't take a chance on me. Love you guys.
Forever yours,
Sally
Photo By Corrine Day.
posted by Defensive Listening at 10:47 AM
143 Comments:
"People relying on blogs to tell them what is cool instead getting out their and finding and buying music for themselves."
Exactly.
DL -
re: the organ
it's like... we "GET" each other.
i got a sleeping bag and some painkillers.
unfooled and all acquaintance be forgot, who be dressing to the 09's? no need to show of hands let's just make it happen
That Hunter Hauk list...what the hell?
Dave's from MB, A+
Alright, Presh. You're on.
oh, god. this is PATHETIC! you guys should be ashamed!!! i think tommy boy and payton are the only fuckers you could scrounge up that had any taste.
BOOOOO!
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glad to see so much fight bite on here, they deserve it. but some of this shit is just terrible. cmon, people, stop being retarded and start listening to good fucking music.
fungi girls had a nice list.
just because you never heard of it does not make it bad.
the first list that i've seen the nissenenmondai release on, one of the few albums (or 2 eps) that i enjoyed this year.
rules
fuel city!!!
can someone plz tell me what fuel city is?
anyone know of a website where I can find out who's playing where this weekend?
since when did the fungi girls start writing for wsjr?? no wonder wsjr is obsessed with them... cause its really just the fungay guys talking about themselves
9:09 is Wanz quoting himself.
How did I not know that The Fall came out with an album in '08???
no he is not.
shit, i forgot the fall album, i liked that one too
God I fucking hate fungi girls. And their list was better than eveyone else's cock sucking pitchfork worshipping god forsaken piece of shit excuses for boring safe lists
Well I guess I will spend all weekend downloading these albums to cement my reasons for hating all of you.
seriously, did no go see ariel pink? or god, a place to bury stranger? how about wolves in the throne room?
STARS OF THE FUCKING LID.
You should all be shamed of yourselves and die right now to make up for your obvious stupidity and self absorbed ambivalence towards anything worth a shit
2:41 & 3:45, care to explain why you hate us so much? i really don't give a shit. i'm just curious.
90210 is James Ferraro's best stuff IMO
if i could, i would suck my own dick at every opportunity i got.
congrats to wanz for achieving this ultimate state of self reliance.
seriously, last time I saw wanz play he started this monologue towards a crowd of like 5.
"hey I'm wanz dover and I'm the blixaboy"
Something interrupted him and he went on and repeated the EXACT samething, like
One) anyone gave a shit
and
Two)he only cares about looking and sounding like a cool rockstar & has to have his "charismatic" little speeches he pre writes.
He continued to talk about his other shitty band, the frenz and how bad he is at making electronic music.
way to go wanz.
There's a reason why people talk shit about you.
you're an asshole.
way to go.
3:46, go for it. You might learn something.
3:49, I'm trying really hard about my ambivalent attitude towards anything worth a shit. It's my New Year's resolution. I'll let you know how it goes.
Well DL thats the point...plus I need some new shit to listen to. I'm gonna paste the whole post into excel in list form by genre then begin the arduous task of finding torrents and using limewire I guess. Anyone know of some more reliable sources for stealing music other than limewire, torrents, and soulseek? I need to get my finger on the pulse.
I hate fungi girls because their English is awful
3:46/4:49-
try googling the artist/album name with rar after it. rapidshit. and shit.
Monotonix in Dallas was my favorite show of the year. Second favorite show was the howard stern show everyday.
what is portishead doing on wanz dovers list? not very obscure, ive actually heard of that band. you can do better dude.
hey hey now, don't talk shit on wanz. He's the god damn blixaboy
I don't like things based on how obscure it is. That is also a myth put forth by the blog comment universe. I like what I like and I really like the new Portishead record. A lot of people miss out on great music since it is "mainstream" or because it's "Underground". It's all so mass marketed by the mainstream media or underground blogs that there is hardly a difference anymore. I have spent the better part of the past 17 years being part of a music community and supporting other folks often before myself. In the old days My fucked up-ness could be considered as stuck up, but I was really just fucked up. Sorry.
I am really not some ego driven scene-whore hipster. I just love music. A Lot. Just a really big fan of the artform. I also like Comic Books and RPG's and Blixaboy is my comic book and gaming character. Just havin fun. Once again Sorry.
As far as making bad electronic music.......different strokes for different folks. Gets me off. I'm sure there is something else around town that will catch your fancy more.
God damnit wanz. LOOK. You can't fucking make a comment without plugging yourself.
Jesus christ dude.
Get off it.
"I have spent the better part of the past 17 years being part of a music community and supporting other folks often before myself"
Can you not take one moment to shut the fuck up about "yourself"
that's why people don't like you.
And you always have to play the victim.
"oh blog comments!!! waaaa"
god, go put in your tampon already and stop crying
im going to make a "look how hip i am list" also, but you have not heard of any of the musicians on the list, so never mind i wont bother. just know that i like shit you have never heard of, and will never hear. you will die knowing you can never be this hip. even if you have heard some of it, you dont like it. you hate it. thats how unhip you are.
my favorite band is so good they haven't even written a single song. That's how obscure it is, but it's fucking AMAZING you guys.
It's not a plug. it's a fact.
I'm a nice guy in the real world. You are not. Look in the mirror. I don't think anyone actually dislikes me as much as the 2 guys that keep being jerks to me on here. That is the truth.
Whatever I did to make you so mad I am truly sorry. I hope you can get over it someday. Cheers!!!
It's not a plug. it's a fact.
I'm a nice guy in the real world. You are not. Look in the mirror. I don't think anyone actually dislikes me as much as the 2 guys that keep being jerks to me on here. That is the truth.
Whatever I did to make you so mad I am truly sorry. I hope you can get over it someday. Cheers!!!
"I don't think"
think being the keyword here...
Later at the end of your paragraph, you decide, no way, I don't "think"(because that leave a margin of error that you cannot risk taking), NO! It is a FACT!
You then in turn say, "That is the Truth"
Make up your mind?
Also, what in the fuck? Are we living in a different world here wanz?
I think the only world is the real one.
Idiot
You really need to smoke a joint dude. You are just a little to obsessed with me. Maybe you should try a more relaxing hobby.
And I KNOW that there is only 2(maybe 3) people that have been harrassing me on here for the past few years. How do I know this? Because I pretty much get along with everyone I know. Now if you actually had the balls to say this stuff to my face I might think otherwise. You still can't name a single thing I have ever done that was shitty to anyone. Just empty rhetoric with no foundation in reality.
seek therapy.
Hickey's pretty much the coolest shit I've heard this year.
oh, cool, yes I will do drugs to calm myself, because there isn't a more productive thing to do.
Here Wanz, I will come up to you next time I see you and tell you exactly how and what I feel about you.
I am not really afraid or bashful.
Also, I'm not a little /too/ obsessed with you.
I'm just tired of you and people like yeahdef, ruining Denton for everyone.
The majority of people who come out to your little parties don't care about you or your music.
They want to get drunk or high and look really cool and have their pictures taken so they can look at themselves on the internet.
Now, getting along with everyone you know doesn't necessarily mean very much.
Allow me to explain.
I have seen the people you hang out with, and the majority of them are all self inflated ego maniacs as well.
I know, and, if you want, I can get them all out for you, several people who think that you are just a self absorbed irritant to us.
I don't like your bands ruining what would otherwise be good shows.
Also your banter about yourself, holy mountain, your constant search for people to feel sorry for you because the internet bullies say bad things about you, is being insufferable.
Now, I never said you did anything shitty to anyone, so I have no idea why that is even up for discussion.
I have simply stated that you are an egomaniac that really needs to shut up and sit down.
Also, I don't need therapy.
I can actually deal with the fact that not everything is sunshine and happiness 24/7 and I accept that and I will speak up when I feel like I need to and not dope myself into "chilling out"
I would say seek therapy if I were to come up and jam a goddamned cigarette into your fucking eyes.
I love harry pussy.
I love nevada
there you go. I rarely play denton and I have not thrown a party in Denton in over a decade. Even back then we did not have DJ's. We had bands. Real Rock bands. We also bought records back in those days. I really have very few friends in Denton nowadays and they don't go to my shows because they don't like electronic music which is fine with me because that is not why we are friends. I have not had a succesful show in Denton in almost a decade. So I really have no idea what crowd you are talking about.
If you are not afraid to say it to my face why don't let everyone know who you are right here and right now instead of posting anonymously.
you won't because you are a coward.
Trust me dude. You have your facts all messed up. You definately need therapy.
Oh yeah....go watch the Holy Mountain. Really. You could also use a little enlightenment. Stop taking everything so god damn seriously. Maybe people just wanna be people. People like you are what is ruining Denton. Go buy a fucking record. Get off of the internet for awhile. Go outside and breath some air.
Cliques and Politics. The Ruin of every music scene.
RISE ABOVE!!!
TL;DR
Does anyone know how James Maynard is doing? I heard he was in a diabetic coma... DIABETES
Wanz you obviously don't know who I am.
My name is tony Lindsay and I am not a coward.
I can and will end you
Wanz you obviously don't know who I am.
My name is tony Lindsay and I am not a coward.
I can and will end you
I dunno, I heard they finally caught the dolphins that mauled Maynard... I say we skin the fuckers and drain their blood into Wanz's mouth.
Poor Maynard James... :(
end what?
I don't have anything.
You definately sound obsessed. Are you a serial killer? If so I would like to know. You are stalking and harassing a guy that makes music to entertain himself and mostly keeps to himself. I play out locally for practice. I already know that there is not much of an audience for the music I like to play. The dance music I get into most is considered too weird by even the dance and party crowd around these parts. I pretty much hang at home and play world of warcraft in my spare time. I don't think my WOW group could be considered evil scene ruining hipsters. The only real band I am playing with nowadays is playing 60's punk covers and the blog generation really does not get The Sonics and The Monks. I am the epitome of old scenester guy retired to domestic life.
Surely there are more outgoing people out there that you can bother.
hahaha, you just keep trolling yourself, I have nothing more to say.
My third eye just shed a tear for James Maynard. Get well soon buddy!
i love the sonics and the monks
Man, Tony you're an ass and you have two first names.
I also have 3 last names
what about the sonics and the monks? put some more tunes up already. that sly album is doooooope.
Why doesn't anybody wanna praise me? I'm great!
same thread. every year.
woops, sorry weshotjr, but i just realized that you guys (well, specifically defensive listening) asked me to write some shit for this. now i feel like an absent minded jerk. so i am submitting it now; here goes.
first let me say that this year, i didn't pay very good attention to new releases. i can name some, but there's no way your going to get a 'best records of 2008' out of me.
second, like my good friend, the ever-maligned but actually pretty swell and dare i say "beautiful" fellow, wanz dover, many of my best musical memories are ones i was involved with. i do not think it overly ego-centric for an artist's best experiences to be ones they were involved with; in fact, i'm wary of artists who are not excited by the things they are doing. some of these experiences include:
(let me get the common ones with wanz out of the way and watch the shit fly)
1.melodica fest; yes it was badass
2.playing in the branca orchestra, something i will have to do again
(thanks)
3.partcipating in no thanks fest
4.recording and releasing "renegade spirits" with my family, tim green and famoudou don moye
5.recording on the forthcoming "shits and giggles" lp (ariel pink/vas deferens organization)
6. recording the forthcoming akkolyte lp
7. going to lisbon portugal to play with humanization quartet
8. playing the cha'ak'ab paaxil imporovised music fest in merida, yucatan
9. playing with tatsuya nakatani
here go some of the best musical artists i saw in 2009
local:
great tyrant, loop 12, resigned to fate, kill the client, zanzibar snails, four days to burn, the falkon, the frenz, vorvadoss, jack with one eye, swirve, the tidbits, tolar, some participants of laptop deathmatch, darktown strutters, lychgate, silk stocking, forest ward, koji kondo, violent squid, sub oslo, steel hook prostheses, butthole surfers(!)
slightly less local:
evelyn glennie, keiji haino, tom waits, demons, wolves in the throne room, rabid rabbit, corima, eugene chadbourne, laurie anderson, peter brotzmann/han bennink, thrones, tatsuya nakatani, legendary pink dots, roky erickson, indian jewelry, los crudos, acid mothers temple, the dead kenny g's, silver apples, monotonix, catheter, phobia, la caida de la civilizacion, the dave dove/paul duo, samothrace, stinking lizaveta, doom siren, rosemary malign, craneo de jade, zero point, man the conveyors
.........i'm sure there's a bunch of shit i left out....fuck it.....i love you guys!
Che, Aaron, I'm glad someone finally mentioned wolves in the throne room.
That show was really damn good.
They are a great band, and it was really great to see them come to Denton.
If there's one guy who's greater than me it's Aaron Gonzales.
as a late addendum, let us not forget the fallen venues of the last year. of course, these are just a sad exclamation point on the venue closing binge of the couple of previous years, but all of these, from the very short lived to the old as shit, undeniably left their mark on dallas underground musical culture. REST IN PEACE:
red blood club
sloppyworld
bar of soap
BEARS!!!
mistress was the best live act this past year and yes 14 year olds sadly have better taste than the rest of you people who wrote for this shit. the best part about 2008 is more free house venues for all. we might be developing a true art community here in dfw. unless of course pigs generally ran by a mindframe of neo conservatism force a backlash upon a culture that threatens their entire ideals of being just by thinking about things.
honorable mentions...
algernon cadwallader - some kind of cadwallader
sinaloa - oceans of islands
wow, tony lindsay, threatening someone on a message board. pretty much the classic definition of either a total idiot or a total pussy. take your pick. you even signed your name to a threat. doubly intelligent.
Self-congrats to everyone.
tony and wanz should just argue over emails. wanz loves to type. a lot. me and others have saved the great ones. I want to publish a zine called "Book of Wanz" in a few years. My favorite excuse to his long/crazy emails/posts/threads (aka anything web related) was alcohol.
that's a good quote:
"I can and will end you" - T. Lindsay
could be a catch phrase from the next terminator film
Actually, that quote is totally stolen from somewhere. I can't remember if it's The Sopranos or Wolverine from X-Men: The Animated Series.
pot calling the kettle black Mr. John Flesh. I keep being nice and corgial to you every time I see you and you still feel the need to take shots at me. The last time I saw you I said merry X-mas and you looked at me and grunted. 9 out of 10 people that I meet that know you really don't like you. Look in the mirror. there is a reason for this. I am not the only person you are rude to. Your shows might do better if you quit being such a jerk to so many people. Being a good natured person will get you a lot further in life.
If you just list the number of times John has been rude or mean spirited to a band or audience member The "Book of John" would be longer than War and Peace.
woops!!! I wrote one and a half paragraphs. By John's standards that's Novel. Peace out!!!!
i don't recall being rude to you and keep creating scenarios in your head that make you feel better.
also. i like how keeping to myself and not speaking to people is consitituted as being rude.
john
john is the ultimate douche
wanz? do you just sit here and refresh? or have an rss feed email to you any time "wanz" is written.
wow.
hey tony, are you calling yourself 'the truth' now?
how very original.
by calling john of flesh rude, you're still not doing or saying anything that hasn't been said before. At least john is booking shows that no one else will and giving out of town bands with less than a giant following a reason to play dallas. Its one of the few good things in this miserable existence called a local music scene.
again, what have you done to contribute?
Can and will end all of you. YAY!
wow.
hey tony, are you calling yourself 'the truth' now?
how very original.
by calling john of flesh rude, you're still not doing or saying anything that hasn't been said before. At least john is booking shows that no one else will and giving out of town bands with less than a giant following a reason to play dallas. Its one of the few good things in this miserable existence called a local music scene.
again, what have you done to contribute?
for realz wanz; I wasn't rude to you on xmas. I WAS FUCKING OUT OF TOWN. I was cordial when I saw you on New Year's and came to see your cover band and listened to your diatribe (and excuses of "lack of practice") to the crowd of Eight. You think I have a problem with you and I don't. The only thing that might consitute as a problem is that you play in too many (terrible) bands and you think I hate you because I wont book you. PLEASE STOP THINKING THIS. I don't book you b/c I don't dig what you play. SORRY man, it is that fucking simple.
wow.
hey tony, are you calling yourself 'the truth' now?
how very original.
by calling john of flesh rude, you're still not doing or saying anything that hasn't been said before. At least john is booking shows that no one else will and giving out of town bands with less than a giant following a reason to play dallas. Its one of the few good things in this miserable existence called a local music scene.
again, what have you done to contribute?
wanz called me rude; not tony "i will destroy you" lindsay.
wow.
hey tony, are you calling yourself 'the truth' now?
how very original.
by calling john of flesh rude, you're still not doing or saying anything that hasn't been said before. At least john is booking shows that no one else will and giving out of town bands with less than a giant following a reason to play dallas. Its one of the few good things in this miserable existence called a local music scene.
again, what have you done to contribute?
TLNR
too long, no read?
oh, its wanz calling you rude under the handle 'the truth'
that just makes the first line of his post fucking hilarious.
( and me a fucking douche for somehow making the same post three times ).
can everyone just stop being a whiney bitch?
( especially you lindsay ).
That new year's show is the only show you have seen me play in many years and we had a bad night. It's a cover band. We do it for fun. everybody involved has there own projects they are really serious about. The Soul reavers is just an excuse to get together and have some fun playing garage classics. You have a personal grudge against me and nothing you have written here really says otherwise. You have issues my man. Very deep issues and you know I'm not the only one that knows it.
I don't refresh, but it is like passing a wreck. You don't want to look, but you always do.
Why doesn't some talk about something else like........Music.
Cliques and Politics The ruin of us all.
I would like to see an even more wide-ranging survey of what 14 yr oldz in the area consider to be cool.
i'm just glad someone finally mentioned how fucking truley awesome 'darktown strutters' are. wow!!!! my new favorite local band next to 'great tyrant'.
Does blixfag ever shut his mouth? My gawd.
Who is this Tony kid anyway? For someone who hates Wanz so much, he sure does pay an awful lot of attention to him. To me, it seems like that grade school scenario we all know too well. You know, the one where the kid that talks all the trash is secretly in love with the kid that's taking all the shit.
myspace.com/asstabula
myspace.com/asstabula
myspace.com/asstabula
i will surely win!
how about talking about other good records from 2008
the only two records I thought were really good in 2008 were:
Ministry: The Last Sucker (and I'm totally serious)
and
The Bananas: New Animals.
kyle and wanz should start a band together
be careful what you wish for.
Cyrus Rego .... the Paul Newman guy playing Prazision-era Labradford style stuff resurfaced for the 1st time in like 8 years? Really?
Assuming Wiltzie wasn't with him as he was the last time I saw Cyrus rego, opening for Pan American at Stubb's in like 2000.
Or maybe it's another cyrus rego.
Cyrus Rego .... the Paul Newman guy playing Prazision-era Labradford style stuff resurfaced for the 1st time in like 8 years? Really?
Assuming Wiltzie wasn't with him as he was the last time I saw Cyrus rego, opening for Pan American at Stubb's in like 2000.
Or maybe it's another cyrus rego.
I meeant cyrus rex. woops.
Cyrurs rego was good too. That was a long time ago.
For the record, Wanz you are not in WOW.
WOW is Women on Weed. While you may be on weed you most certainly are not one of the ten cool chicks in the Dallas chapter of Women on Weed.
So there.
wanz seems nice on here. only people that seem rude are the ones talking shit about him.
aaron is the will wheaton of surrealist soul-jazz grindmastering.
haha who was the truth?
I got on to see if any last minute shows were posted for the weekend and people are posting as me?
I'm not here to argue or fight because this has gotten really idiotic.
I don't like wanz. Can I not?
Also, I've done plenty musically, artically.
that is all
I also like a good fight, so fuck off.
Why are people afraid of a fight?
I want to see a good mothfight
are these cats... john, wanz, Illes ? like part of the elder statesmen of the underground dallas music scene?
your gay
to aaron gonzalez, where did you see keiji haino, and how was it?
i saw keji haino open up for tool in chicago
RTX!!!
11:34 am... getting close to it.
beat u up
fuck u up
sex u up
5:42, yeah. Wanz and Liles especially for over ten years. Wanz started doing Denton stuff first, then did Dallas. Not sure how long John's been around booking and such, but for a while. Seven or eight years from what I can recall.
I started to write out mini-bios for all, but it's getting late. They've all done their share of promoting and supporting dDFW music and performances for a while.
Liles is on the colors soundtrack. really. He was in Decadent Dub Team a very very long time ago.
shit, i've still got the vinyl
yeah liles is the real deal, fo sho, wanz as well. if this were any other major metropolis these guys would probably be more well known on a national level. i think something about this town, and the jealous and pretentious people in the "scene" here keeps alot of creative people from reaching thier full potential, its kinda sad.
so you dont think LA and or NY (or whatever scene you think is great) dont have any jealous and pretentious people in the scene?
The Dallas/Denton/Ft.Worth area is a special kind of fucked up. It really is worse here than other major cities.
Aahahahahaha-- Jeff Liles is a washed up wigger who can't stop talking about being on the colors soundtrack 20 years ago, or his club that has been closed longer than it was open.
tob zhelf ligger
I love Tommy Boy, and the best live show was The Magnetic Fields.
Yes on Medio Mutante, too bad about them missing Melodica and by the way Melodica was the best festival or weekend of live music.
chinese democracy
what a complete and utter load of nonsense/horseshit. period.
hey wanz: if people need to chill, should we send'em to malice?
hey aaron: dude, i think that burrito you're making is burning.
the mag. fields show was great. but far from best of the year around here.
POTATO.
Video of the year:
p.o.t.a.t.o.l.i.v.e.s.
you won't be sorry.
what about the boston music scene? its just as pretentious and ass holy.
Only pretentious people call other people pretentious. Ironic, but true.
only pretentious people point out that only pretentious people call other people pretentious. Ironic, but true.
i am #1
I miss CJ.
was that tony lindsay in denton on saturday night?
nope
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